Children Mind Control Rings – Andrea Sadegh – Marc Gray Project Camelot

 

 

 

M: Marc Gray (Camelot TV Network)

A: Andrea Sadegh (traumabasedmindcontrol.com)

 

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M: hello folks – good morning, good evening, good afternoon – wherever you are

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We are here live from Normandy France

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with us today is Andrea Sadegh live from Vienna Austria

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You have probably heard

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or not heard of the following names

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in the mind control programs

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as well in child abuse affairs

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on top Arizona Wilder, Cathy O´ Brian, Kelly Sullivan, Fritz Springmeier, Jimmy Savile in England, Svali, John Todd, Cisco Wheeler

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and in the show biz recently you have heard of Corey Feldman, and Elijha Wood, Miley Cyrus, and Lady Gaga talks about PTSD, and of course Marylin Monroe – a vintage classic – and

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believe it or not – the king of pop himself – Michael Jackson – in the midst of

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several breaking stories

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from the US

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Europe, Norway and

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everywhere – major child trafficking and abuse affairs

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trauma based mind control

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and mass satanic rituals on children like the pizzagate case in the US

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involving the Clintons, John Podesta – so much for ET disclosure, right? – Marina Abramovic even involved in cannibalism

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British UEFA Players testified about the pedophile-ring operating the football clubs

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The Millenium Report, last summer in 2016, involved the largest pedophile ring in history: 70000

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70.000 members

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head of states etc. etc. – has become part of it.

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France has become a dictatorship recently after Manuel Valls passed a law on December 5th stating that

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the highest Court known as “breaking court” is now under governmental jurisdiction, which means there is no

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separation of power or independence of justice. Not that there

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had been much of any before. Tonight, we discover

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the world of the occult, secret societies, freemasonry and black magic, law and

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enforcement, politics, secret intelligence agencies and

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Show-business and media, daemon and Satan worshipers

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they are closely connected and are covering

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and protecting each other. No matter

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their ideology, race, origins or religions. Religions are highly ranked

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in the child abuse hierarchy on this planet actually.

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So tonight, I am pleased to welcome Andrea Sadegh

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live from Austria

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Hi, Andrea. How are you?

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A: Hello Marc. I am fine, how are you?

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M: I am great. I am great. This is a very dramatic topic tonight. We are going

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to do our best to disclose everything you have experienced and gone through

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I know that your son Luki has been heavily used for human experimentation in terms of trauma based mind control. – – –

A: Yes.

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M: What can you tell us about it? You founded

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and you have let a network against torture on toddlers and children since

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2013/2014, right? – – –

A: Well, I came into this topic

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when my son was 2 1/2 years old, coming back from visits from his “daddy”

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and he told me the most horrific things but he did not tell me the things, he showed me within

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flashbacks, meaning horrible

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horrible horrible pains, he was crying, shouting going through again and again

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through these crimes and within these scenes or happenings I found out much about the system of the crime and

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So, for example he was talking about waterboarding, he was talking about dissociation, meaning leaving the body, he was showing me how

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the was hit, how he was trained to laugh when he was beaten. He had to be on his knees

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he had to do some kind of ritualistic movements

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It was horrible and all his pains, his suffering, his tears. And, I was so lucky or unlucky

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– still I am not convinced – he was able

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to show me perpetrators, by chance and he was able to recognize them and name them

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And partly he was afraid, he was shocked, he was crying but partly he even was fainting when he saw them.

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So, I soon had a picture that this are not just pedophiles

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as we saw them before: I saw that these are psychologists, physicians, psychiatrists, high ranked people in our society and partly I knew them personally

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so, I knew they are quite clever

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and I soon found out

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that they have done something on a systematic bases

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you know? So, I tried to … over courts I tried to have him examined in detail because I knew that the only way to

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to proof all of his suffering is to put him into an MRI/CT or have him examined via a nuclear medical examination in great detail

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And of course, they refused everything, and in these days

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I had no glue about satanic ritual abuse, I had no idea that trauma based mind control would exist, but what I did

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I wrote down line by line as my son Luki told me everything, partly I made audio-tapes and handed it in to court

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Short story: I passed a psychiatric exam without any problems, 3 weeks later

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they took him away because the child protection center claimed I would be insane

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ignoring the exam and then they just went on programming on him and again 6 months later I found the terms satanic ritual abuse and trauma based mind control

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And, for this reason I decided to inform others, to inform psychiatrists, parents, nursery teachers, teachers, people in the social field, that they can recognize

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the symptoms of toddlers and children, because it is

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quite difficult and you really have to look at the symptoms and you have to listen what they are telling you. So traumabasedmindcontrol.com was founded then.

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M: Okay, so you have been the only Austrian woman and mother

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who has been fighting and taking her case to court, right? – – –

A: No, there are many court cases, but

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they are avoiding the catch-phrase: Meaning if you say, my child has had to suffer

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satanic ritual abuse they are just writing the child would have been abused.

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So, actually someone – I do not know who has time for that – if we would look closely to the child abuse cases we soon would find over thousands and thousands ritual abuse cases

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then for the next step trauma based mind control cases. So, it is all covered up by the term child abuse.

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M: Okay, but it is more than “regular” just “simple” child abuse – it is really

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satanic ritual abuse

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it is torture, it is crucifixion – you have told me about.

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A: Yes. Yes.

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M: Tell us about the dissociation phenomenon they are triggering within the kids – what is this all about?

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A: I mean, their main aim via torture is to get a dissociated child, a broken child. The mind should get

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broken, so they have many parts of the mind which they can program. We all have heard of the stories

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a child then can have even as an adult 5, 6 to hundreds of personalities.

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So, this is the result they want to have. And these personalities should not know something from each other.

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And for this you need deliberate torture and you need exact torture. So, it is cynical but the torture knights

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within these groups or also from governmental side are highly appreciated, because you need to know what you are doing.

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M: And the soul, their purpose is to make … from trauma – the trauma based torture event one the child- is to make the soul leave the physical body, the container

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And, what do they do then? That has to do with daemons and Satan? They possess the physical container of the child, right?

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A: yes. partly definitely yes.

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I met over the last years quite a lot of programmed – heavily programmed – survivors and

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many of them had personalities that are completely accessed by entities or however we want to call them or name them.

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I also realized in those days, this I did not report to courts, because it was in those days far too dangerous

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to report it, but also my son with 2 1/2 years showed me one personality and this personality had completely black eyes

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with no white inside and I found out later, many years later, in an interview with David Icke to report it, but also my son with 2 1/2 years showed me one personality and this personality had completely black eyes

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M: wow.

A: with no white inside and I found out later, many years later, in an interview with David Icke

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he was saying that, when this

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is happening then the entity is very strong within this personality.

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You know, I was a loving mother, taking care of my child and all of a sudden

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you have the child with the flashbacks, with the highly traumatization and all of a sudden within such a personality you see your child with completely black eyes.

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So, it is really a shock

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one shock after the next.

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and what I decided

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is, I decided not to go into my feelings on this topic because I would not have been able

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to help my son

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and I would not have been able to talk about and help others

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M: Right, right.

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So, your situation basically

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is that you have no access to your son and the last time they let you see him was last summer, right?

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A: No, it was in summer 2015.

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M: 2015.

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One and a half year?

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A: Yes. Last year.

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And what they did on our visits – I would be allowed to see him every 2 months for 2 hours –

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and in summer 2015 I realized that they are using these visits for his programming.

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On one hand to show me the further steps (in programming) they are doing on him.

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so, they showed me openly that he was crucified, I saw the wounds on his feet.

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all his sufferings.

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and in summer 2015 he had 100% clear signs – I checked this with specialists too –

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that he has had to suffer sensory deprivation.

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So, they are putting him into the sensory deprivation tank

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and afterwards he is allowed to see me, his mummy.

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So, I decided

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I am fighting for him at court

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to get custody back

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and also, at least, to see him over the weekends because this is

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incredible torture

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to see your tortured child

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and you cannot help him.

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M: Right.

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So, basically all this trauma based mind control, the satanic ritual abuse, those are the terms the acronyms that we need to know. SRA is satanic ritual abuse…

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and the SCA is the systematical chronic abuse

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and MK Ultra

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Some of us are very familiar with the mind control program of the CIA

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You can acknowledge and see the symptoms on toddlers and children. What can you tell us about SRA and SCA?

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A: There are many terms around for these crimes over the last centuries

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the term most common now is Satanic

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or Sadistic Ritual Abuse, but we found out that this is just one part of the whole thing.

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The term trauma based mind control and MK Ultra is more precise in my opinion

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because for centuries they are going on with satanic ritual abuse and those in power are not doing anything

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against it. So, this is governmentally wished

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accepted and highly appreciated.

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And when you look into the trauma based mind control agenda, you see clearly

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that the governments

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on their own are interested in these crimes, because they are producing staff

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for their own personnel, meaning as politicians, as secret service officials, as military stuff

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even judges are programmed.

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So, they need this trauma based mind control agenda to have their stuff which they can trust and manipulate like marionettes even judges are programmed.

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And a new term, I found first in Slater´s work

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is systematic chronic abuse, and

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several scientists are trying to find an umbrella term for all these crimes

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inclusive severe chronic trauma.

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M: Right. So, they are basically breaking down their ego

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they are fragmenting, they are dissociating

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the personalities creating obedient broken down children who later on become their

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agents in the field in all types of

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of all fields of society – black spirituality, military & governmental, entertainment industry & Hollywood, academia & physicians, right?

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A: Yes. Exactly. – – –

M: Right

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This is the picture we are actually looking at.

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A: Yes. And we are often asked who are “they”, so this chart is depicting who are “they”!

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And Carmen Holiday, a brilliant scientist, just put it together in one sentence: “…programmed robots are programming robots….”

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M: Yes. They are duplicating and replicating.

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what they are victims of.

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Right?

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They have been mind controlled and are duplicating and replicating what they experienced. It is just like the father…

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who was abused as a child and who abuses his own children, right? – – –

A: Yes, yes. – – –

M: That is terrible. It is all trauma based. Trauma is the most

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I guess the most reminiscent or

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trauma is one of the emotional states, remaining in the mind, in the consciousness of the people, right?

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For various lives and incarnations and that´s why they have been using trauma to control people, basically. – – –

A: Yes.

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M: But there is mass mind control, but this is like on an individual basis. There are many children

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around the world that have been

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triggering some major cases and affairs, let´s see if we can discuss

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chart number 3

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Yes – the slide 3 where you see a few famous cases, right?

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The Vogue-model

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we see Deborah

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A: Yes. These are cases that were uncovered actually but nearly all the children

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are still in the hands of the perpetrators.

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So, the German cases of Aaron for example – he still is in the hands of the perpetrators

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my son is still in the hands of the perpetrators

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Kian is still in the hand of perpetrators, so

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there are dramatic stories behind them, Kian for example

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was taken from his mother after birth, so

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they were then using him for satanic ritual abuse as it seems

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the evidence is very clear

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still he is in the hands of a foster family and his mum is refused to see him

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M: Right, right, right. And also, let´s see there are more famous children that have become very famous as adults

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A: Yes.

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I mean, I put into (these cases), I wanted to make them visible, because we were told or learned from mainstream media or school or from wherever

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that sexual abuse would happen in the

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lower social classes they would abuse their children

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and this is one of the biggest lies, because all the children

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who are born into freemasonic families

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into military families

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even into families out of the monarchies

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are going through programs like trauma based mind control programs

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So, I put into pictures where it is quite obvious. So, we have Barack Obama (….)

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(…)

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And for sure Suri Cruise is a child who is going through these programs (…)

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She shows every sign a child can have depicted on

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pictures or short videos about here. Next one: The adopted daughter from Sir Bob Geldorf (Tiger Lili Geldorf)

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No one was taking care of her signs, you know.

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I mean it is incredible what happened in this family

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there were rumors that he was killing his ex-wife and her new husband, then adopting the child

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So, within a satanic family belonging to the OTO – ordo templis orientis – it is quite it is incredible

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that this child was left with this father in this adoption family

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Then we know since Machiavelli “Il Principe”

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we know the monarchs are programming their children

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they are drilled

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they should not have any feelings they just should function as marionettes

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so of course also the British line is concerned of this crime

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And it is not just a crime that is done in l lower social classes

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as it is claimed or on drug addicts or on orphans – even they should not suffer, but we have to face

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that it is done in the elite families. We have so many reports

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about the Rothschild family, their offspring are talking about the torture the rapes

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they had to suffer.

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M: Right. – – –

A: We have to face the reality

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that actually those in powers – our elite – went through such programs

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M: Well. You call them elite, I call them psychopaths

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A: But they had been programmed to be exactly like that.

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So, I don´t want to blame the victims

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but we have to realize that they are victims too. I don´t like what they are doing

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I don´t like that they are just doing the same with children what they have suffered, but they are adults, they should stop it

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of course, but

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They went through these programs, so they are very dependent on

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the system

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that is feeding them

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M: Right. – – –

A: Because without their families

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without their freemasonic groups

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they are “nothing” – In my opinion they would find it hard to find the way to the next bus station on their own, you know.

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They are so dependent.

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M: Right, right.

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Let´s try talk about the various steps of programming.

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How does this programming go on? There is this American artist and survivor Lynn Schirmer who depicted

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the programming in 9 steps.

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You tell us about it? It starts as baby in the mother’s womb?

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A: Yes. – – –

M: That´s insane! Tell us about it! – – –

A: Yes

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The torture of the babies already starts in the mother’s womb.

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Why? They need in general as a kind of recipe

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they need mothers who are able to dissociate or are dissociated

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I use exactly both terms, because I have the ability to dissociate

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and I always felt it as a gift, you know.

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Not as a burden.

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So, it is maybe both sides, but

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for me it was a gift. So, they need

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at the moment, they still need mothers who are dissociated or are able to dissociate – why:

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In the mother’s womb, the baby should learn this ability

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Because they need it later for the torture because if a child is not able to dissociate

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quickly, it just would die.

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And we know that they are loosing hundreds over hundreds of children worldwide

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in thousands, because they are not quickly out of their body so they are dying because of the torture.

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So, they start with the “training” as it is called

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in the mother’s womb.

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meaning torturing the child.

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M: It allows them to

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step out of their body so it is an out of body trigger through torture and trauma

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So, it is an out of body experience? – – –

A: Yes, right. And you have to have

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this ability to survive the torture as a child. We adults would not survive

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anymore the torture the toddlers and babies go through

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We could not stand it.

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But they can stand it, when they have the ability to dissociate.

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M: Right, right. – – –

A: So, the training

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“dissociation training” as it is called – the term is horrible but

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you also have to see it on a scientific level otherwise you don´t understand their system

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already starts in the mother’s womb.

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And this is done by several means:

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We know that the mothers, the womb is pushed

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they are inserting needles to hurt the baby

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Most important is also to traumatize the mother, meaning shouting at her, bossing her around

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hurting her feelings and for example the mother should also drink bitter fluids, so in our own case, my ex-husband told me “well,

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listen, this is a fine herbal tea, you should drink it, because it is healthy for pregnant women”

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So, I drank bitter herbal tea because I thought it would be healthy because you are very thirsty being pregnant and I had no idea that this was already part of the

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dissociation training of my son in the womb. – – –

M: Right – – –

A: And very often

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if a mother would never be willing to torture her child

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or to have it tortured, then they are just drugging the mother

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and then are beating the baby and so on.

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M: Wow. Right, they drug the mothers as well? – – –

A: Yes, also during pregnancy.

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M: So, let´s see – after the baby is being dissociated inside the mother’s womb

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and the mother is also traumatized between the age of 1 1/2 and before the age of 3

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the toddlers and children are also abused and tortured? – – –

A: Yes.

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M: Right. How does that happen?

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A: It is very important that the

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mind of the child is already broken, because at age 3

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the trauma based mind control training and programming is starting.

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So, I always say to everyone “just take care of the child until the age of 3,

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stay with him or her, don´t give it away, don´t give it to nursery schools

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or whatever, just stay with the child until the age of 3″ – Because after that horrible things can happen

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but trauma based mind control training will be quite hard.

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or nearly impossible to do. So, they do several kinds of abuse

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they are preferring “sexual” abuse

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because this is the best method for them

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to split the mind of a child

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because it is so painful on the soul level, the mind level and the body level. So, they are doing this

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because it is the most efficient way to

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to so, you know.

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Then of course they are tortured, meaning

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they have to – my son told me about it that he had to – eat feces

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blood

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he had to swallow and lap up urine

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or vomited things. Most important during they get tortured there is a group that is laughing at them and mocking on them

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This is also very important because the child should loose and has to lose his inner self, his self-confidence, it is very important to break down the child completely.

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M: Right. – – –

A: That is also why they love these kinds of rituals where are doing this

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One single person

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would never be able to

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to do it.

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M: Right. So, he looses his own sovereignty as a human being from early on and he becomes obedient and a slave.

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and – yes. That is totally sick. It is actually similar to the hazing going on

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in maybe sports clubs and sporting teams or in high schools.

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It is a sick type of ceremony, except that is does not go so far, maybe sometimes it goes so far. – – –

A: Yes. It is the same mechanism

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and it is very painful, especially for the soul, every kind of betrayal or being mocked in groups

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or just being treated so unfairly.

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No one is helping. It is even heartbreaking just to listen.

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So, this makes the children very open for manipulation and further programming and that´s why they love it.

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That is why they are accepting all these rituals, because within these rituals this is done there.

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And this was exactly also described – without having scientific literature about that in those days – by my son, then 2 1/2 years’ old

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M: Wow. Okay. He has split personalities from this. How did this happen concretely?

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His father who is not his father, right, you say he is not his father, was put into a marriage with you

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in order to watch over the pregnancy and take him every Friday to do rituals on him?

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A: Yes, every Saturday. – – –

M: Right, right. Is there a specific reason, why was it Saturday?

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Is there a specific meaning, an occult meaning? – – –

A: No in these days I still was in maternity leave

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and he was working so it was fair to – I wanted to have a nice patchwork family, I wished to have a big family with many children

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nevertheless, we divorced and I had no clue what was planned

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and then I decided, that they both should be happy together, he should have his daddy, so I accepted willingly that he could fetch him every Saturday.

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So, Saturday was the day where it happened. But in this phase, they have so much personnel

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it is such an important phase. Even if I would have told have him you can have him on Tuesday, they would have done it on Tuesdays

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because it is so important to get the child to break him or her down.

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To break apart the mind. So, Saturday was just the date because my ex-husband was working.

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M: Right, right, right. I guess we get in a question in French that does not mean anything.

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There are many French trolls out there, I can tell you.

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They are trying to mess with our topic here tonight.

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So, you think your ex-husband was part of the secret service intelligence?

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A: He told me, that he would have worked in the Iran for the military.

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He told me that he is educated for that. But, he told me that he now is not working any more for them.

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But it was also very clear that he also has had the ability the training, the education for that, because he spoke several languages

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perfectly, on a perfect level, he was very very familiar with doing sabotage and he also went into a Suffi School he told me

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so, he was really great at black magic – I just realized it sometimes, so he really showed (all signs of intelligence) and then of course as a psycho-therapist, so he really was highly educated, you know

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M: So, highly educated, highly trained and highly initiated into the occult. – – –

A: Yes. – – –

M: You said he also was part of the Mossad?

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A: Yes. – We have here scientific literature

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that is saying that the secret services as a whole are working together.

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It is hard for us to understand

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But I can confirm this at least in our case – We have secret service from Iran, from Persia

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we have the Mossad involved

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we have the CIA, we have Austrian secret service, we have British MI5 & MI6

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and we also have connections to Russia. So, you really see that this kind of crime is done internationally. And we know in terms of trauma based mind control, that they are working together

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they are exchanging information, they are doing research together, because they still want to create this kind of “Uebermensch”/superhuman. – – –

M: Yes. Like super soldier

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A: Yes, but the Nazi “Uebermensch/superhuman” – they still want to create it and based on this it still makes sense, that they are all working together.

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M: Right. It all derives from the old Nazi-programs as well. – – –

A: Yes – – –

M: What I called the Nazi programs as they worked together in the death camps, as you told me before.

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The Jewish were turning in other Jews into the death camps to the Nazis and they were Zionists already – so they all work together, so there is no duality in this word, all the assholes are working together, all the psychopaths.

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A: Yes. – – –

M: There is no duality – – –

A: Yes, like in inquisition times, you know the good ones are slaughtered, the others get the power, the rest in silence is allowed to survive.

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Very simple trick, used for centuries.

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And now they really perfected it.

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And even during the Nazi-times, before they killed so many Jews, they got rid of their own population, meaning many (Christian) Germans and Austrians were brought into psychiatric hospitals

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were brought into concentration camps – they did also research on them.

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But of course, main target group were the Jews

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And to go on with their human experimentation but even there we got to know at the moment that even Jewish physicians from underground were working with the Nazis doing programming

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M: Of course, – – –

A: And also, nowadays, we hear from Israel, that the state

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the government is stealing children doing programming on them. So, it is really done in every single culture, in every religious group

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and we have to stop thinking, “these are the good ones, these are the bad ones” – we have the good ones and the bad ones as our neighbors.

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M: Somewhere at the top of the pyramid, and they are programming children who are programming other children and it goes on forever, as they are so many new children with psychic abilities, and new abilities that have been activated, they are not able to keep up – so that´s my optimistic point of view.

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So, in the meantime that has to stop. So, what were the first signs that made you notice the situation with Luki and at what age?

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A: When he was 2 years old, after a few visits he got ill, serious ill. High fever, no doctor, no physician was able to tell me what he had.

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and it was like as if he was dying, you know

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but he was not able to tell me in these days, because he regressed

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with the ability to talk of course within this trauma, and then actually like overnight after 4 months, he was then 2 years and 2 months’ old

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he pretended to be happy. There really was this personality ready

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that was “smiling” all the time, you know, and between he had flashbacks and this and this and this. So, I got very worried what was happening.

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And two further months later, I got to know this, this, this and everything broke out of him, piece by piece by piece

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I was so lucky, because I studied comparative literature, so I am specialized on texts and text-analysis.

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And this was very helpful for me because I remembered every single line he was telling me and then puzzling together everything within the chronology.

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It was very helpful for me to be able to do that.

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And even to be able to express what he was telling me, because partly there were weird things that he was talking about.

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Within a flashback, he told me that he would have been tortured with a toilet brush…

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So, you have the problem of getting told weird things and on the same time you think o my god that can´t be but on the same time you see your tortured child within a flashback and you have no doubt that it has happened.

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M: yes. Right. I know. So basically. You told me about the connections to various intell agencies.

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It seems to bother some viewers or listeners about the connection to the Mossad. Maybe there are Mossad agents or Zionists out there watching us – I don´t care – hello

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it is not a religion

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it is just a psychopath ideology

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like Nazism – it is the same thing

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And also, those programs, you said your family was derived from, maybe your mother was manufactured or conceived…

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in a Nazi program during the war, right? – – –

A: Yes.

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M: Can you tell us about that? Because it seems to be just like the ET- experiencers or abductees like inter-racional issue, you know? You are picked because your genetics, your genes or there is something on a soul level?

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A: Yes. – – –

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What I can add to the Mossad theme or Israel. Luki, my son, recognized perpetrators on one hand out of former Nazi families

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who were committing this crime hand in hand with high ranked Jewish families, so they are working together.

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And we know that Israel are asking every single Jew if they want to join Mossad – we know this from the 90ies

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They were asked “Do you want to help informally” and they said “yes” – I always thought that this would be a great idea, so they could protect themselves better

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I am not about that opinion any more. But it´s like it is. It is nothing against the Jews. I have heavily programmed friends out of the Jewish communities. So, they are victimizing their own people, it is not to be against each other, it is just to

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stand up against this crime altogether and not against a special group.

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And your question with my family…. – – –

M: Maybe there is a thing with blood type as well or not?

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A: I think we don´t know enough at the moment. There is claimed that there would be interesting blood types. I have 0 positive,

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my son too, so this is the type of the long-distance runners, this we know. They need this kind of soldiers for long term jobs. Blood type A is said to be for short intensive powerful

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operations, where you put out all the energy within 5 minutes and then you are having a break. But I think they know much more what is within our blood, within our DNA and I believe these criteria we do not know now.

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M: Okay. Right. Right. You told me your mother was sort of like totally emotionless when you asked her about your son it looked like she had no emotions.

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towards you or she was not sympathetic or she was laughing when you questioned her about Luki? – – –

A: Well, I mean, I am convinced that she herself is programmed

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she has typical programming for female perpetrators, they are kind of narcissist sadistic type

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And they need this kind of women to raise children. Because the mother has to handle the child and as a mother you have to be very cruel to the child. If the child is crying, and if you have to not comfort it, or you have to leave the child alone, so you have heartbreaking situations

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all over every single day – so you need this type of programmed mother and specially on my mother, I did not realize how insane she is actually, I just knew well she is weird.

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but I had no idea – Luki told me that she is involved. I really, I nearly could not believe it, but

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of course, I believed it then and she seems to be directly programmed by the Nazi-doctors herself.

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Like many in Austria. Austria is very unknown on this topic, but you must not forget, that the SS-Academy for physicians (SS-ärztliche Akademie) doing human experimentation was located in Styria, in Graz

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M: Mengele was there too? – – –

A: Mengele was there, Aribert Heim went to school there. He is “doctor death”. He is the second famous

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physician after Mengele. There are books about him. He did enormous research in Mauthausen, in the concentration camp there.

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We here have deep 4th or 3rd REICH programmers. And also, American whistle blowers like Kay Griggs,

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in an interview in 1998 with Rick Strawcutter, said that psychologists and psychiatrists here out of Vienna/Austria are teaching how to program

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M: Right. Actually, in slides – the next slide we are looking at, we can see, how

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biofeedback training blocks access to certain parts of the brain and alters and alter teams and this is how it works deliver shocks like electroshocks

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It actually creates alters in your brain. And this is what Mengele was working on in the death camps and all the all the Nazi mind control programmers were working on in the death camps, right? – – –

A: Yes.

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Yes. They also started the connection with the soul. Here are obviously the Satanists coming into the game, because the need the betrayal of the soul, to stop the soul from development to try to split the soul.

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The combination is very important. These are the connections from satanic ritual abuse to trauma based mind control, meaning governmental human experimentation, actually.

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M: And also, the kind of report we are getting symptoms – they are also being raped not only by adults as well from animals? This is bestiality.

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A: Yes. I did research on this topic, because my son Luki before he loved dogs, and after that he got panic, just seeing them

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and I interviewed some survivors about that topic who have lots of memories and they were so kind to tell me, that it is done quite often

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because it is so hurting, so hurting the soul, you are so humiliated

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because when a kind of different being – meaning a dog has its fur and you feel it on your skin and it hurts so much and the others are laughing and not helping and you must not forget

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just imagine then, the child lives in a family that has dogs – the child will be triggered just seeing the dogs, the child will always function just seeing the dogs

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because of the fear. They love such triggers. So, the German “Schäferhund” – this is highly intelligent, bestial brilliant intelligence, no?

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M: Right, right.

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And also, what they do to dissociate the children from their physical body, the container

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and they lock them in basements, cages, coffins and water tanks, etc.?

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A: yes. – – –

M: In the dark for a long period of time. We have had a few affairs that came out. Wasn´t it in Austria that it came out that a young lady who was

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locked in the basement for years, I think? – – –

A: Yes, it was Natascha Kampusch

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and she is a classical cover-up, she is a classical trauma based mind control case, because authorities claim, that

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it would be a single perpetrator

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who would have kept her in this basement, I think for years (…)

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And the second case we have here in Austria, is the case of Fritzl, who kept his daughter also in a kind of basement

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and he had 7 children with her. And a whole village would not have realized what this guy was doing. So, these are really cover-up cases

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and the Fritzl case is 100% a satanic ritual abuse case.

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Because they love to impregnate women, so they have to give birth and they also love to play with genetics, they love to play with who the father is, also there are rumors that Natascha Kampusch

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has given birth to a child which is now adopted and is living somewhere else.

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So, there are so many politicians or those in power who love to create unofficial dynasties, you know?

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M: Right. We are going to talk about these rings and circles in power.

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And the perpetrators in a few minutes. We now just have to finish with the symptoms of the toddlers and children

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In the slide 10 you mention on your website that some of the symptoms are having seen devils and ETs

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You mean as an experiencer or an abductee – have they been encountering those

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creatures or beings or was it some type of holograms or holographic projections?

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A: I mean, many children report of having seen devils or even ETS – Luki has not told me about it – but I know it from other cases.

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The problem we have now is that they can create with this 3D, 4D, 7D animations so perfect pictures, so the new generation

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can be so heavily manipulated by this kind of technique

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because what will they tell us, whom they have met, because they think it is real and there are even experiments, you know Marc, I have the information from you actually

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that they can even now touch the hologram

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M: Yes. Right. They can touch it.

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A: So, the new generation will really have a hard time to find out the truth

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Because the pictures, the scenes they have seen can be manipulated.

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M: Yes, they get also materialized. I have seen in hypnotic regressions. where people talk about real meetings with daemons and extraterrestrials and sometimes they leave physical traces behind.

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So, before I mean for the past 20 years there have been holograms but prior to that this had been going on

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trauma based mind control on children since the antiquity, since the Sumerians, since old Egypt

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and we will talk about the ancient language you heard from your child yourself when he was a toddler

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– and there was officially no hologram – maybe we are living in a total holographic illusion ourselves.

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in the material world, we are connected with and we are dealing with

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there seems to be also material physical encounters

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not only holograms, hallucinations or synthetic telepathy

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What can you tell us about the ancient language you heard Luki talk and speak?

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And how old was he? – – –

A: He was 4-5 months in these days. He was not able to talk in German in those days.

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But all of a sudden, he started to talk to me – smiling at me – he had the energy of a young men in his 20ies then –

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and talked and talked talked talked for about 3 minutes – and I was thinking, wow, what is going on here. And I nearly never told someone before, but one year ago, doing research, I found material that they did this experimentation, meaning the group…

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the predecessors of the Thule group or the Vril group – Madame Blavatsky and Hartman and all those – especially here in Vienna and they did

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experiments with babies with newborn babies and smallest toddlers and they also reported that these babies or toddlers would start to talk in different languages

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So, it is scientifically proofed, before I did not dare to talk about. Because tell your general practitioner around the corner that your son would have talked to you as a 4-month-old baby in an ancient language listening with his soother in his mouth

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They take away the child immediately. – – –

M: right. You mentioned that you saw him with black eyes?

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A: Yes, this was after the traumatization. Meaning being 4 months old, he started to talk in a different language to me and I found all scientific literature

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from 150 years ago.

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And after traumatization, with 2 1/2 years old, he had one personality that had this personality with black eyes without any white inside.

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It was like in a horror movie

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And I accept everyone who does not believe it, because I would not believe it if I would not have seen it.

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M: Right. Right, I understand. And you said, he was telling you those words “mummy evil, mummy evil”? – – –

A: Yes. It was like a mantra he said “mummy is evil, mummy is evil, mummy is evil”

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then he was falling asleep and I was standing there and thinking “o my god” – and I have never watched “Rosemarie´s Baby” before, because I could not stand watching these kind of horror movies

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but afterwards, after they took him away I had to see the movie and the energy was very similar to that movie

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And also, Roman Polansky knew more, because he would face jail, so he is hiding somewhere because of pedophilia, he knew exactly what he was talking about in this film, you know

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M: Yes, for sure. You think he was a perpetrator as well? – – –

A: Just look at the pictures.

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M: yes. – – –

A: You have no doubt. But not just look at the pictures but on the energy, the vibration that comes out of this thing

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M: Right. Right. We gonna finalize about the symptoms of the children and then talk about these rings

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Basically, they are being administered drugs or alcohol via injections or suppositories or drinks or being sedated with a mask and are also injured with dazzling lights…

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and shrill noises? What you mean by dazzling lights? – – –

A: Dazzling lights are lights that are just blinding your eyes. – – –

M: Like stroboscopic lights?

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A: It is just to flash the eyes to confuse everything – this we know, same with sounds that hurt in the ear…

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M: Because I do know 2 Austrian physicians and researchers who were MDI experts who came with stroboscopic lights which they later called Lucia lights…

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whom they sold to French Ufologists to trigger out-of-body-experiences.

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So, that´s why I mentioned it – the stroboscopic lights – they were researched by Austrian physicians. – – –

A: The Austrian, that´s cynical, but Austrians are brilliant researchers

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but the problem is, that their research is often based on bestial human experimentation.

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M: Right, right, right, Exactly. What do you mean with shrill noises?

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A: Shrill noises…

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meaning hurting noises. You can hurt the ears with noises.

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And they are also putting into the ears noises with different frequencies.

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they are even working on programming with the frequencies – the child is tortured and someone is trying to put the whole situation into a frequency

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that can acoustically be repeated. So, whenever you are listening to these frequencies, you are (un)consciously shocked or triggered, even if you have no memories.

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M: Right, right. So, it is also all about trauma and shock. You worked on a statistics … what happened next?

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A: Tammi Stefano, she is an American psychologist

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doing a lot of work for children for uncovering also. She said one perpetrator will rape

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meaning one pedophile will rape around 100-130 children in his whole lifetime in average. So, I took this number, and said okay, one perpetrator is raping 100 children, and I say 10% of these children will become perpetrators of their own. then I did some kind of statistic forecast, ….

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and I found out – I checked the numbers 10 times because I could not believe it on myself, but after 5 generations this one perpetrators caused 1 million victims (and 10.000 perpetrators)

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M: You mean he would generate? – – –

A: Yes, generate, because there is a point, where these crime is raising exponentially.

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And you can change the numbers as you wish, but you have the same effect – it is raising exponentially and in this situation, we are now.

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Everywhere the child-trafficking-rings, pedophilia, open trauma based mind control in governments – we are already in this exponential curve now, where you can see it is done, you know.

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In such a huge extend that you just can ask “Wow, what is going on here?”

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M: Yes, and you mentioned a list of perpetrators Luki acknowledged which you put on your website. Which functions do they hold in society in general?

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A: Well, they are out of the branch of physicians, they are psychiatrists, lots of them are psycho-therapists

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And then of course the usual family members – because you always need the family involved in such crimes

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This is mainly the list

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Why I put it on the website, to show it openly I was hoping that they would go to the prosecution office and say listen, I am on this list, I am on this website

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I have nothing to do with this crime and I want you to investigate now. But no one went to the prosecution officer

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So, it is highly interesting. So, they don´t mind or they are so involved in this crime. – – –

M: They don´t make a noise.

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They don´t want to go against your list.

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A: No! I would go immediately to the prosecution office

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say, dear prosecution officer you investigate now, because I do not want to be on this list. So, this is for me self-explaining, no?

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M: Yes. No kidding. So, they are mainly living in Austria but have connections to CIA, to Russia, to intell in Belgium, there are diplomats involved, powerful politicians… – – –

A: Yes.

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M: Who else? You mentioned the perpetrators in Austria are obviously connected to the old Nazi-families and some of them are high ranked freemasons, and one of them is the chief of the freemasons on Munich connected to the CIA, right?

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A: No, the chief in Munich I do not know, it is just the Großlogenmeister, master of the grand lodge in Munich, his nephew was involved with his wife.

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This I know. The former Nazis have the contacts with the CIA and they have contacts to Russia. So, it is very interesting, you can see the whole network.

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M: Yes, since operation paperclip they are all working together. – – –

A: Yes – – –

M: 4th REICH is in the US – – –

A: Then we have connections to very important politicians

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very powerful ones – for example the son of the Federal President´s best friend the son was recognized by my son as a perpetrator – – –

M: You mean Sarkozy, let´s name him!

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A: No, no here it is Heinz Fischer. But mentioning Sarkozy –

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they are all connected via the Grand Lodge in France via the (grand) chevaliers and

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the French legion. – – –

M: Yes, they are all connected. You mentioned something about the former president´s son, right?

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In France – – –

A: Yes, and part of the group also seem to have close contacts to the presidents (Sarkozy´s) son – it is like a party of the elite.

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The programmed children of the elite are enjoying to program and torture children on their own.

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So they just repeat what they have suffered on their own.

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M: Nazi-Programming’s, rituals, the perpetrators were also the victims on their own, you said and the governmental programming

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did not succeed, so some of them are not well programmed

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They get out of programming and start talking, right?

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A: Yes. They could talk, of course but they don´t want, actually. – – –

M: So, it is just the Mafia blackmail pressure they are being threatened as usual

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but there is so much money involved you said?

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so much intell? and secret intelligence? – – –

A: You must not forget, that even my son with 2 1/2 years told me

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that they filmed everything – everywhere were cameras, pictures taken films were made

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So, if you torture a child, and get filmed, you are forever in the hands of

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a kind of secret service or shadow government or whoever, you are forever in the hands of those who are in possession of these films.

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So, they don´t dare to speak, because this is a kind of strategic entanglement.

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secret services worldwide are doing and the German secret service is specialized on that – the Nazi started to do that on a grand scale.

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M: Right, right. Why do you think they need the children to get them dissociated?

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From age 0 to 3 years old? When they are so connected to maybe source? And they do experiments with babies, channeling with babies?

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And I mentioned to you that they did teleportation testings with children as well, Andrew Basagio was talking about it…

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A: The Montauk boys… – – –

M: yes, yes, the Montauk project.

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This is why, basically? That the soul and the body of the child can be dissociated easily and can be controlled from early on? Like Freud and Jung

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used to say: You control the childhood and you control the whole being for life.

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A: Yes. – After the age of 3 it is nearly impossible to split the personality of the child in this way.

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You can injure the child, you can torture the child, of course. But they need the broken

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mind of the child before the age of 3 because

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afterwards it is not breaking the way they want, because they can heavily use this broken parts mind of the child before the age of 3 because

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They need big parts and they want to program into one person at least 5-6 personalities, even much more, but at least

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5 active personalities, and that is the reason. – – –

M: Right, and they also look for children with special abilities, you told me, like Luki with 1 1/2 years old was able to recognize the ABC and was able to read his first words

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A: Yes, yes. I mean this comes also from Aleister Crowley, he said – “intelligent, boys, blond, fostered meaning beloved” – would give out the most energy. So, this comes also out of this satanic corner.

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And what I found out, very important – it was very hard to understand from my son:

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He always told me he had to promise something and I was always wondering, what did he promise and what was the problem on that….

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And time after time after time he told me – and I found it in the scientific literature – this is very important, this is the most important piece of it –

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he had to overtake the burdens of the perpetrators, meaning their karmic guilt was handed over to him

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And I saw him and I saw parts of the perpetrators and they were all of a sudden released happy and relaxed, before they were (embittered), and my son – it was so heavy on his shoulders and his soul

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And also in scientific literature it is mentioned that they are handing over a lot to the children, are doing contracts with the children

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“You will allow me to go into your system and fetch out energy or hand out energy” or whatever…

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And I think this is also the

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main motivation for many of them, taking part in such rituals – and it is also discussed in a Hollywood movie – the The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus –

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because they also mention this kind of energetic transfer

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quite openly. – – –

M: So, let us go back to their motivations and what their goals and objectives are

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You told me they are looking for children with special abilities. The group behind knew perfectly who he was. So, they are looking for some type of…

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Christ figures, for children that could have these abilities, potentially. You told me they are looking for children with special abilities. The group behind knew perfectly who he was. So, they are looking for some type of…

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And they always take the bright children. Some parents are happy to deliver the children to the trauma programs in Austria

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So, you saw him in 2015 at a foster home or was it a child protection

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service they used also in a movie about abused children, right? – – –

A: Yes. It nearly looked the same – I was so shocked when I was seeing their rooms,

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because it looked like out of the scene of the

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child abuse/child trafficking movie (Operation Zucker) that was on television in the German speaking countries and the hall of the child protections center (Pflegeverein Steiermark, Graz, Styria) just looked the same because it looked like out of the scene of the

74:56

child abuse/child trafficking movie that was on television in the German speaking countries and the hall of the child protections center (Pflegeverein Steiermark, Graz, Styria) just looked the same

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That is very obvious because they need this kind of torture via sexual abuse

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to keep on having the child dissociated for their programming that they are just selling the children there. And I have no proof for that, but the similarities are very shocking.

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And why does a child protection center needs a huge hall with a piano and all that stuff? Where does the money come from? Why do they have so much money?

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M: child trafficking is pretty intense everywhere – from Africa to Europe to America – everywhere.

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So, you said they were looking for mothers who were able to dissociate or dissociated and also are gifted or talented, so these mothers or women are really targeted

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And the babies are learning the abilities from the traumatized mothers during pregnancy, so the baby learns it automatically, right?

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Like you described earlier. To keep them already dissociated. They always try to construct a scenario when you talk in public or you take it to court or you bring it to a lawyer or psychiatrists, they always are saying the mother is so traumatized so she is making up everything, is that right?

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A: Yes. But this is the problem. They are trying to do in most of the cases: They are hunting the mothers, they are depriving them, they are trying to make them homeless or unemployed and after a while when

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when the mother is breaking down, then they come and say: “Look, we have told you from the beginning, she is crazy!” – This is a really cynical and bestial game and you have to very strong not to play it

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Point is, the mother is traumatized during pregnancy – so the trauma should start then or at least a kind of re-traumatization –

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But it is always their aim: because psychiatrists and psychologists are always involved in programming so of course the just claim the mother would be insane. We have cases, we know about cases, where mothers, pregnant mothers…

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woke up in a kind of hospital, told they have made a caesarian and the child would be away for adoption, because the mother would be insane – can you imagine?

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Imagine: You wake up in a state hospital, you have no idea about a kind of insanity you have no idea what happened you just know you are not pregnant anymore because your baby is away. And, authorities claim you would be insane.

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So, you must be so strong not to get crazy with all this pain. you need so enormous power to stay on the ground and fight for your baby.

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to not give up, not to start to get insane or crazy, then, they love to do gas-lightening, group-stalking…

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mobbing, human hunts: They are breaking into your flat, they are drugging you, they are destroying something on your car, so you have to be really strong and keep your nerves

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and not to get crazy because this is exactly the path they want you to have in.

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Then they claim: “We were right, she cannot raise her child.” – – –

M: Right. I know. You are so traumatized

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you have to stay operational

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and raise your child, you are right – – –

A: This they want to have, so you really have to calm down and stay centered

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always try to get back the centered state, have a rest, then fight again, because of course they want to present you as an insane lunatic

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M: You also talked about some healing workshops you are working on for 2017 because this is crucial and you mentioned something about Germany….

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There are over 50.000 governmental child abductions a year – it is official – right – toddlers plus babies – you think they are building up armies, the child protection services are coming…

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to take away the children from parents, they claim you are a bad parent, they are taking away newly born babies from hospitals, even with caesarian, no chance to get back the baby and…

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there are mothers, that have been testifying – one mother has been in prison for 14 years because she protected her daughter, right?

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A: Yes.

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M: Wow. – – –

A: This is standard, when you are in this situation this is standard

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also, to get to know about such cases. And we have this situation worldwide in every single western country – in every single western country it is done, you know

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And we see they need youth welfare department stuff, they need child protection stuff, they are building one foster home after the next…

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There is money, enormously money going to them and to get this money – greed is – we know what greed can lead to

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There are really human beings willing to do this on other human beings, meaning on children

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and parts of the children then go partly to human experimentation, to satanic ritual abuse, some are lost, some are transferred to foreign countries

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And they don´t mind. They don´t mind, even – they don´t mind – for them it is just a business.

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And they don´t mind to do this on children. Then we have the pharmaceutical experiments, too – on them

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And everyone is getting so much money and they cannot resist or they are too silly I have now idea or are too cruel or whatever

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But they are just following this agenda. We have this figures from Norway down to Italy and it is done in every single country – also daddies are concerned –

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as a parent, you are so broken and shocked. You have to have the ability to talk or to write.

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Without this ability – you must be very strong to do that – so without this ability – no one will listen to you and many say, no I will loose the game, so I give up the child.

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M: Exactly. So, you said there are some children hunts and men hunts are going on – some listeners think this is science fiction? – – –

A: No, unfortunately not – my own son had severe symptoms showing me that he had to take part on a hunt….

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M: okay.

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A: He was hunted with cars. He got crazy when a car was starting close to him

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and he was trying to run away it was like all of a sudden – out of the blue – and it took time to realize what was going on what triggered him, and why he was just running like a deer in a hunt

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And we have the stories from the royalty, there are so many witnesses testifying I had to take part on such a hunt

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And we have detailed descriptions, detailed witness confessions – and from Africa we know that they loved to do so, and I told you Marc, whenever thinking of Africa I get so shocked what they have done on them, because it must

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… excel everything we have heard before – – –

M: Yes. They are duplicating what they have experienced on their own…

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You told me that daemons were an important topic they are really working with them learning from the bible – the Vatican really being really part of this whole…

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pedophile ring, they priest´s-entanglement and the remain silent – they were abused themselves and then they abuse children, right?

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A: Yes. Most of them are programmed to become perpetrators. You must not forget that they are drilled to become perpetrators.

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Even young girls are programmed: “You will bring us every single child. Your children, your grand-children and your grand-grand-children.” (for torture programming)

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So, we so often have this crime within families. And the problem is, that the most of the perpetrators cannot find healing cannot find resilience, and of course they are doing what they are programmed for. And those in power hardly can see that they are programmed, because for them everything is fine: They have power, they have money

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they have good jobs, they have high reputation, so it is hard for them to understand that they went through such programs themselves.

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M: Right. Right. Right. A listener is asking he said he was “a watcher” – he targeted and marked children, you know?

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during his flights – I guess – out of body experiences?

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What was it meant for? What purpose does it serve?

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A: I did not catch it? What did he say? – – –

M: He is a listener – he says he was a watcher. – – –

A: Observer?

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M: And he selected them marked them and all this during his out-of-body missions?

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A: I mean what I realized with my own son but also found in scientific literature:

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We know that the children that are telling something, talking about something, it does not matter the age

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then they are brought back to the governmental programming and we know that these children are punished severely.

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To educate the others. So, if I got it right with the watcher, it could be that he had to watch what was done to other children so he would be silent for the rest of his life.

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M: Right. Right. So, he was abused himself, then – maybe? – – –

A: Of course. And, they are working often with cover-up memories, so you have a memory that is very disgusting, very painful, but you have to look behind, behind, behind, …

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because in the most cases there are even more important or even more cruel stories hidden, than you can imagine.

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And then you can find out the purpose. And as soon as you have the purpose, it is a kind of way to heal because truth is always healing – you are through these programs, it is not happening anymore, so as soon as you know the truth…

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there is an enormous healing process starting. And I found out even with my son with 2 1/2 years – every story he was able to tell me, every story he was able to understand….

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The healing went on so quickly it was amazing even for me, how fast it went – step by step by step

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M: Right. Your own case – you have no memories from when you were born until you were 10 years old, right?

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A: Yes. Actually, I have a huge memory trouble – I can recollect everything from age 15 but from my early childhood I nearly have no memories.

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M: Wow. Okay. You are now trying regress hypnotically to find out more about it, right? – – – A: Yes – I started to do this kind of research now. Before I did not want to look into my things

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before I did not want to mix up my story or potential story with the story of my son or the other children

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But now it is time for me to go into healing work.

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on several ways. – – –

M: But you said, family members are part of this crime, your family is part of this crime, your mother seems to be 400% part of this crime – you say. So, it seems …

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she was coming out of a Nazi-facility she was a genetic breeder, out of Lebensborn e.V., one of these children born in 1948 – and it did not stop after she was born, right?

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A: Yes. –

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No, they did not stop of course. Everyone thinks because they closed officially the concentrations camps they would have stopped all programs – No, they did not stop!

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The main programmer besides Josef Mengele – Aribert Heim – was living in Germany close to Karlsruhe, meaning in Baden-Baden

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and they just were going on with their work – with their breeding facilities, their genetic research and so on…

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M: Right, right, right. Tell us the case from this lady in Strasbourg, that is from Estonia that is also an abused person as a child now defending the perpetrators, right?

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A: Yes. This is very interesting: After you go a long way at courts in your own country from France, Italy, Norway, from where ever – then there

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are not many possibilities left, and you are landing at the Human Rights Court in Strasbourg of course. Strasbourg, France

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M: We are going to name her – Julia Laffranque – she is from Estonia and she is working at the Strasbourg court and her father was working partly for the Russian secret service.

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A: Yes. So, I wrote them and I got the letter, no everything was done well, the Austrian Republic decided brilliantly right

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and then I was doing research about her and then I found out that her father was working for the Russian secret service as a psychiatrist

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I looked through pictures of her – she is 100% trauma based mind control programmed – and she got the title of a chevalier of the French legion with the age of 30…

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So, that is not possible, because the rules of the legion say you have to serve for 15 or 20 years then you can get this title – no, out of freemasonic families you get the title as soon as possible because they needed her in Strasbourg…

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M: I did not get it either but I am much older – – –

A: On one hand, it is very funny, on the other hand it is of course dramatically on all sides…

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she refused to look at the torture case of my son and also, she went through a trauma based mind control program

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– Dr. Julia Laffranque – and also there were pictures online of her own children in the age of toddlers. You could see easily that these children also were going through a program

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So, you have the whole drama, that this programmed judges are programming their own children are refusing to investigate…

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and this is- in sum – if you go in a distance – you just can say this is a brilliant bestial system, no?

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M: Right, right. It is like the Ouroboros, the infinity sun, you just go in a circle – – –

A: Yes, I call it the perpetuum mobile of evil. And I wrote to the president of the Strasbourg court, …

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to Dean Spielmann, I have never received an answer, but shortly afterwards I had to fly from Austria, because they wanted to kill me…

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via radiation and poison – maybe this was the response, I don´t know. – – –

M: Right, right. You are lucky to be alive. How come you think they keep you alive and well?

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A: At the moment – yes. Let´s see what will follow next. What we know from several cases worldwide, you nearly never get out your own children.

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They would prefer to kill them before. I hope and pray that my son comes back to me, but I don´t know if this will happen before he is 18 years old…

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M: He is gonna be 8 years old, right? – – –

A: Yes, in February he will become 8 – – –

M: You said Luki had to take oaths, swear a lot, he was telling you one

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horrific stories one after the next. And the battle was on a soul contract and that is where the solution maybe is, and they were trying to put pressure on his soul, they are doing this quite often that karmic transfer – that is important and the key; then Sandra Fecht and the karmic revocation workshop, that might be a solution

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A: Well, even being targeted I had to do a lot of healing work on my own, meaning to be functional, to stay functional to be able to do research to be able to

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write, because you saw the website – it is quite – they are many pages at least in German and do research, under radiation, do research when being hunted and targeted, even writing to courts, so I did a lot of…

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healing work, actually. So, first I found out that these contract revocations are a powerful tool – my son told me, or better, I saw it, when I did them on him…

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I also published pictures of him after I had done a whole night revocations for him and it was releasing his soul, his whole being, he was peacefully inside him, you know

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So, I went on from time to time doing these revocations, now many many many are dealing with revocations and they are recommending that you should

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do them at least for one month or even longer every single day – – –

M: Is this on your website? Or can you give us the link…? – – –

A: Yes.

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I love the ones from Veronica Keen – it is on the Montague-Keen website, but I will also publish them on traumabasedmindcontrol.com tonight, in English and in German, because I think they are most powerful, but every

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revocation is a good thing – also Andrew Bartzis has great great revocations – and you feel them immediately if they are working you feel it (immediately).

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And you should do them every single day – this is most important – because many say “just do it once – and everything is fine” – no – they are playing with time-lines, they are playing with

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the automatic renewal of these contracts – we still have not found out how they are doing it, we just know do them every day – this is a great remedy actually.

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And a second thing is, you can do on your own, because I prefer things you can do on your own, because when you are targeted, when you have to leave the country, you have to do everything on your own, so I found it very helpful to work with healing stones, with crystals

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because you can carry them with you. (…) Then do meditation, meditations to go into your heart is very helpful.

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And I was so happy to meet Sandra Fecht this summer in Switzerland actually and she as a psychologist, now as a counselor, she has been working for decades with experiencers of satanic ritual abuse and she developed

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very helpful methods in terms of healing. And her way is, to do it via regressions, so also, she prefers that you find out the truth

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and when you have the truth the rest of healing goes very fast. – – –

M: So basically, finding the truth is a liberating technique, is setting yourself free and balance yourself…

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Get back your memories for healing, and once you discern the system of what you have done…

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the thing is, they are sort of stupid, because they have been always repeating themselves through ages, we are more creative – we are still in the loop

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of this mind control trauma based karma thing – and they are not very creative – so from the middle ages to torture from the middle ages to ancient times it is always the same thing – to traumatize people – so raising awareness…

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get people to know about child abuse or satanic ritual abuse or mind control programs makes a big difference. There is a checklist, where you could find out if you are concerned or your child is concerned you told me

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If you are in danger, if you are an experiencer…. – – –

A: Yes, this is my special field, I did enormous research about the modus operandi of the crime so you can find out, is somebody maybe involved or for 100% involved…

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Is the child in a program? Is the child used for SRA or for something different? Is the child traumatized? This is my special topic – make complex research, complex thoughts easy

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I put them into a kind of check-lists to have something in your hand

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Otherwise you cannot work, because it takes you I think

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half a year, one year, two years to see the whole modus operandi – so I love to work with this kind of informational checklists.

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M: Fritz Springmeier does some excellent work, right? – – –

A: Yes! – – –

M: Also, US psychologist Ellen Lacter, you told me who has the website www.endritualabuse.org

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A: Yes! – – –

M: And support groups can be helpful. Do you have any support groups in Austria?

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A: I had some support groups but they were messed up by some secret service stuff or some satanic groups

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So, I decided to join Miesha´s groups, Miesha Johnston American support groups

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and I am translating there for the German speaking ones – – –

M: Greetings to Miesha – she is in Las Vegas I interviewed her – – –

A: Yes. And I am translating on Thursday, there is the official group but also on Sunday nights.

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And I am translating there – because if I would do the support groups I would just spend my whole energy on them, you know.

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And I need to do some research and some general awareness-raising things, because in the German speaking countries no one is talking about it or nearly no one.

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So, I decided to be Miesha´s assistant in translation. – – –

M: Right, right. And in your case, after you saw your son last time, you told me, you would communicate telepathically with him?

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From time to time, right? Since you have not seen him since August 2015. Last time you saw him, you took your case to court, again, right?

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Okay, what happened then? – – –

A: They just write me that there would be no initial suspicion – “In your case Ms. Sadegh there is no initial suspicion, so we don´t do anything. Best regards, your prosecution officer”

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And the telepathically thing I just started a few months or weeks ago

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before I needed help, but now I am able to do it on my own – but of course I would prefer to have him with me and ask him directly – you know – – –

M: Yes, you told me that in your Sadegh file you had about 10.000 pages…?

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And the like to sabotage you a lot – the secret service intell…?

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anything – your car, your printer, your heater is breaking down, you do not have much money, so it is hard to buy ink for example…

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A: Yes, I had times where I had nothing to eat, yes.

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M: Yes, and there we go. And when you have to print out 400 pages to get the court to look on your case; and this summer you told me you sent out about 300 job applications from Switzerland and Austria –

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and all the German speaking countries and without result – it is the same in the US and France – when you are on the black list you cannot find a job either – you said, you put your computer in a bank safe, is this right?

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A: Yes, and after

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they took Luki away I just put the laptop and an audio-device where I recorded enormously important meetings into a bank safe…

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and after a few days I got nervous, because I said to myself, Andrea you are silly – if they are really from the secret services

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they have access to it. So, I ran into the bank and found my laptop deleted – completely deleted

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and the audio tape – this is very interesting – partly they deleted it and partly they changed it and for the changes I have witnesses

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M: Wow. – – –

A: So, but the prosecution office, the corruption office, the highest court is not interested, because there would be no initial suspicion.

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concerning the Sadegh case, so they just keep on covering-up

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M: Right, Right, Right. – – –

A: So, when you have important data – my recommendation I maybe was also a bit clumsy, you know

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I was more a mother in those days, I was not so fit in computers I just had to re-learn it again, because

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you have other topics with children, you know. And best thing is, just to duplicate duplicate duplicate everything, and bring it to

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thousands of friends – or even better to publish everything because it is hard for them

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as soon as you have published it is much harder to manipulate it. – – –

M: What can you tell us about the current state of Luki right now? He is in custody officially?

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He is in the hands of his perpetrators, right?

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A: I do not know – I am not allowed to know. I am not allowed to look in to the files of the Sadegh case.

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I am not allowed to see my son without supervision, and the supervisor is just there to destroy every beginning talk between a mother and son – not about this horrible topic –

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They are just destroying – they are stopping you, they are shouting at the child, when the child has a flashback or a personality switch, they are just looking the other way

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They are just there to trigger the child. One of the supervisors of Luki I am convinced that she is a trauma based mind control trainer, so they send this

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trainer to the visits with me – so whenever Luki starts to tell me something she is immediately to trigger him, so you are always surrounded by the secret service stuff.

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And I also asked authorities officially – how is my son, how is he in school, how is he physically, psychically, mentally, from soul state? What is he doing? What is he loving? No answer. Nothing.

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But they are asking me to pay alimony. – – –

M: Wow. that is 100% torture there. – – –

A: And until 2 years ago, this is maybe also important for the audience

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until 2 years ago, meaning until December 2014, my child was taken in early in 2012 I was working officially – governmentally allowed – as a social councilor, helping unemployed to find of jobs in some kind of governmental programs

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So, until 2014 I was allowed to work as a social councilor, but I was to insane to be the mother of my son in the eyes of the government.

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M: I know, it is almost like they are teasing your case. But your ultimate goal would be to make a precedent case

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legal speaking and you would like to build up a database of perpetrators – like we have a pedophile database round the world to get to know if there are some pedophiles in your neighborhood…

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This is your goals, right? – – –

A: Yes – – –

M: the programmers group is not so big you said

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They work in all countries Germany, Austria, UK, the US, France, Israel and so forth… – – –

A: Yes, and there are perpetrators of Luki, Luki told me they would have

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tortured him, and the same guys – this is really interesting – then a 30-year-old woman also told me – “yes I also partly recognize them as my perpetrators”

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and I think a 40-50-year-old American survivor was confirming, “yes, me too” – So you see that they trauma based mind control programmers/torturers are really working on an international level.

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And at least between neighboring countries – that´s why there are always so close connections to Belgium and France to the Dutroux case but also to Germany and Austria – they are all connected.

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M: Right, right. But how about their ethics? Is anyone of them sane-minded?

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Are they all under mind control? Or is there any agent out there that is ethical or sane enough to work for the mothers who lost their children?

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A: Also, I have the impression that the good ones are dismissed or killed easily

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And we have so many cases where policemen killed themselves

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or it is claimed that they would have killed themselves… so, they love to set examples, so everyone is frightened

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And I have the feeling that all those in silence have to stand up against it worldwide and just protect the children

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in your surroundings but also others, because this group is getting bigger and bigger – and worldwide we are at the same opinion with these enormous child abductions from governmental side

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they are creating armies out of these children and if we don´t stand up now against it, it will be nearly impossible to stand up against it in 20 years.

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M: right, but why do they need an army? With all these mind control, hyper frequency weapons?

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The masses worldwide are experiencing all these hyper-frequencies waves, micro-waves and scalar-waves?

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and the Tesla technologies on mind control so it is everywhere in the media, in your TV screens, in your cell-phone, in your all technology, your computer, so why are they raising an army if everyone is under fire already?

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Because there is more and more awakening?

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A: More and more are just concerned, Marc

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They realize we are the next, now we are concerned. In sum, to hold them down

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to go on cover-up the crime – in my opinion it is needed to suppress them via police forces via military forces, and this is my humble impression that they need it for their own folks, actually.

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M: right – – –

A: Maybe there are even further reasons but this is my impression.

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M: So, the agents of “them”? Who do you think is behind this occult ring and the shadow government that needs this energy extraction?

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… all this mind control on new born babies and toddlers and the children that are gifted actually….

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… they always target the most gifted ones, right? Some are more gifted than the others and they are targeted, right?

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A: I mean every child is gifted and every child is brilliant but I think sometimes the parents can´t see it, you know.

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But nevertheless, the question: This is what I am also doing in intensive research, and we also talked about it Marc, I am always landing at the former Nazis and the Vatican, meaning the 4th REICH agents.

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But I have no idea for whom they are working, is this the top or are behind

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… is there behind another group hiding – I have no idea – but these are the most important ones I can see, I can realize – Wernher von Braun still is in action with their successors

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These are the ones really, they got visible, they are highest hierarchy. There are famous pictures from Wernher on Braun besides Adolf Hitler

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where you can see that Wernher von Braun is the boss. And after a few years you see the picture of Wernher von Braun besides John F. Kennedy and again Wernher von Braun is the boss. It is so amazing from the body language, you know.

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And the Vatican with the black pope. This is what I realize these are the highest hierarchies I can see – if there are behind more hierarchies I don´t know, but I would love to know.

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M: Yes. Well, in hypnotic regressions we noticed a few testimonies

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that there is real, not 100% real but there are so many common points and case figures between testimonies and hypnosis that we can tell that there is a lot of archonic

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connection with daemons, devils, some Draco’s, some reptilian species, and some greys so there are some interdimensional beings involved with it, so there is a whole connection that is not human

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And you are seeing that they are trying to trigger possessions among kids, evil possessions, even on your own kid, he said “evil” and you saw him with black eyes.

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And talk in ancient languages. So, it is all about possession but possession of whom and this energy profits well

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this energy is geared towards control and the top of the pyramid, the archonic powers have taken over this matrix

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for hundreds of thousands of years and the way of do it to get beyond that is to raise awareness and get everyone connected that has

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come to the conclusion that we have to build a new society and foundations need to be

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build up from the ground up, not based on the corrupt elites – well elites are psychopaths that are ruling us – well, we have a few minutes left, Andrea

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I give you the final word – what are your dreams for 2017?

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For your own case? Your own son? Your own family? Your own sanity? If I may say so.

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A: Okay.

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Well my dream is that I get Luki back, meaning the full custody for him (…)

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I would immediately and officially leave with him Austria.

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and settle down in another country – this is my personal dream I would prefer, you know.

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But, being realistic, he would be the first child given out of a trauma based mind control program

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I just hope that awareness is raising, that people are facing what is going on there.

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because now we also face the situation that everyone is more intelligent than the next. It is good to have this self-confidence, but it is very important to also work hard and doing research

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because it is not coming by sitting and listening to a view YouTube- videos. It is reading books, reading documents, going back to the origin, even reading the “Book of Death” from old Egypt

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doing profound research – I am talking now about trauma based mind control, there are many topics, you know. And the next thing is, we have to stop watching others

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uncovering, we have to help them, we have to stand next to them, we have to support them. Because they are just killing them in the first row, so what is going on when we all are killed – next generation can start at zero. Protect the knowledge.

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Save copies of interviews, save copies of websites, save copies of books even, we don´t know what will be here in 5 years. And, share the information, talk about it, discuss it. And if you have any questions to me I am prepared to answer them – even if you have doubts – just ask me – I take the time to answer your questions. Of course, I am not willing to answer any faked hoax “bla-bla” emails, but if you have serious questions I will answer them.

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This is my ending and my hopes for the next year and I hope more are joining,

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more are seeing the need we are living in, so I hope they are donating something for Christmas

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This would be my wish for 2017.

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M: Well that would be great a Christmas gift and for the upcoming year and all those cases

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that are out there in Germany, the UK, America, Austria, France, etc. and mothers need to come forward out of the closed and not be scared to talk publicly about those cases instead of handing over their babies to these psychopaths so they can extract energy out of them

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and also, slow down our awakening – because by attacking and molesting children they are also slowing down our awakenings as a species and this is what is going on and these are our stakes for 2017

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Everything revolves around the mind control basically, so who controls the mind control the whole planet and the whole species and thanks

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to ladies like you, Andrea, children have hope to come out of their molestation and abuse

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they have been experiencing for 1000 of years now. So, thank you Andrea and happy holidays (…)

A: Thank you Marc for having me, Marc, and happy holidays (….) Bye.