4.05.2019 Round Table Reality Brief – Andrea Sadegh

Andrea Sadegh on Reality Brief trauma-based mind control – recorded on May 4th, broadcasted on May 8th, 2019 – full transcription

 

Dan&Don: Hi guys, Wednesday night, I am Dan – I am Don – you are watching Reality Brief. We got a special guest tonight – Andrea. How are you doing tonight, Andrea?

 

Andrea: I am fine so far, how are you?

 

Dan&Don: Great. So, you talk to us from Austria, right?

 

Andrea: Yes, Austria, Vienna.

 

Dan&amp;Don: Your specialty I guess you can call it would be trauma-based mind control – your website is on the screen <a href=”http://www.traumabasedmindcontrol.com”>www.traumabasedmindcontrol.com</a>

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Andrea: Yes, I am specialised on the symptoms of the small and smallest ones, when all this mind fracture and basic programming is starting.

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Dan&amp;Don: So, how did you get into this? Like, what was your circumstances finding out about all this stuff?

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Andrea: Well, I came into this topic over my son, when he was 2 1/2 years old. He, after actually not even half a year with visits at his daddy (on his own) and – had quite all of sudden horrible flashbacks telling me the most crazy, horrendous things you have ever heard. And within the flashbacks there was no doubt that he had suffered something severely, so I was trying to puzzle out what might have happened without knowing anything about satanic ritual abuse or MK ultra and – I started to write down line by line what he told me also describing his language, his body language, what triggered him, and so on… and, sent it to courts, and always asking to have him examined in detail over MRT/CT. Courts refused (to have him examined in detail) and – Austrian government took him then away. Now I know – because he recognized 72+ perpetrators involved in his basic mind fracture and also as his programmers or mk ultra trainers and, afterwards, they claimed “no, the boy would be healthy and would have nothing”. So, the blame was put on me as a kind of patsy or scapegoat and after that, they presented me under supervised visits my highly traumatized son very openly so, he actually is officially in a MK ultra program. With no chance to get help for him, with no chance to get any examinations. This is the status quo now since 2011, so he is ongoing in a program for 7 years now.

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Dan&amp;Don: That´s heart-breaking – that´s heart-breaking and frightening that they just can do this to people this network of abusers, nefarious bastards in position of power are able to exert this kind of influence over society as a whole

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Andrea: Yes.

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Dan&amp;Don: So, what type of things was he telling you at first when he was having these flashbacks?

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Andrea: I mean it started when he had a flashback when looking in the mirror – this was very stunning – there I realized that he had experienced violence this was the starting, you know, and then all of a sudden he started – one example I always tell – because it is the most horrific and also the most embarrassing one, even to talk about it: he was tortured with a toilet brush. So, he took a toilet brush and all of a sudden he had the memory (trigger) “I know this, I know this toilet brush” and he was crying for hours, shouting, shivering, panicking but you know, there are different ways a child can cry, as a parent you see when it is panic, horrific… But one can also it on children from others – but back, so he was crying like crazy and first I thought, well, yes, they might have him beaten him with this, until I found out over hours or even weeks, that they used the handle of the toilet brush to penetrate him with that, to sodomize him with that. And, one hand – you know – you have your tortured child, so you have no doubt that his happened and on the other hand – just imagine – you as a parent, now have to go to police, to prosecution office and tell them, well, yes this happened.

Who should believe you, so these groups (and networks) are bestial brilliant to always put the blame on you as a concerned parent as well on the children, as no one would believe it.

After all these torture happenings – water-boarding, he was rolled into a carpet… he was trained to act as a baby prostitute (etc.) and you as a concerned parent, you have to explain prosecution office, police that this can happen, that this does happen and, that even many perpetrators were present whom he had to name “mummy” or “daddy”. So, you come with this quite weird stuff, if you do not anything about satanic ritual abuse, ritual abuse – child trafficking – or mk ultra – you nearly have no chance to get someone to listen to you. And, what is very interesting, I several times offered authorities they can examine me psychiatrically, they even can have my son – after a detailed examination over CT/MRT/(nuclear medical examination) – and if my son would not have anything… he can live with his “father” – I really offered anything and they (courts, authorities) denied, denied, denied.

So, it is very difficult when you are in this situation as a parent to even get an examination for these children. And, there is the Istanbul Protocol from the United Nations, so hundreds of torture specialists wrote these (guidelines) for torture cases – a guideline for acting in torture cases – this is now the official recommendation from the United Nations, and the point is, no one knows about it or claims not to know about it and if you have a tortured child no one is helping these children.

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Dan&amp;Don: Now, when this first started happening, what did you think that it might be first, or did you think automatically that it was this?

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Andrea: We here in Austria do not know anything about satanic ritual abuse or MK ultra. So, I had no idea what was going on but thanks to the information my son was able to give me about the perpetrators, I realized that they are well well educated, they are university professors, physicians, psychologists, so I knew that they are no idiots, you know. So, I just thought, there must be something, a bigger structure behind that… Because they would not take such a risk and they would not be able to do it so professionally, you know, the way I saw that my son was trained as a baby prostitute… was highly professional. It was heartbreaking, heart-breaking, but I realized that this was done on a highly professional level.

Or situations, where he changed personalities, I named it “he changed his status or consciousness” I did not realize that he already was a split personality with deliberately caused multiple personality disorder – I did not know this (in those days), so I described it differently.

So, there was a personality which did not recognize me any more: I was with him on the street and all of a sudden, he changed into this alter and he did not see me anymore (standing in front of him), so he was like standing alone on the street, trying to join other adults.

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And from “small” – let´s say “small” things – I realized “O my god, this is a huge, huge, huge systematic thing done on him”.

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Dan&amp;Don: So, if you suspect that your child is maybe a victim of this, what are the symptoms that you would normally look out for? Besides from what you already said.

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Andrea: I mean the first symptoms, during the first visits were, that he came home very ill, you know. I was at the doctor´s with him nearly twice a week and the doctor´s  – the paediatric, meaning the child physicians – always prescribed him antibiotics. Now I know they described him antibiotics all the time to heal his inner wounds, because you nearly never see some wounds or bruises.

White torture is used – so, you cannot track water-boarding, you cannot track (all kinds of white torture) – so, they often roll the children into carpets to beat them there, because this does not leave traces… And, he already was “clean” we say in German, meaning he was able to go on his own to his potty, so, I did not check his genitals, his anus in detail. And what I know now is, that – or pricking with needles, they pricked his tooth root canal – they use everything that does not leave VISIBLE traces.

So the first symptoms are that they get ill, very ill, are stopping to talk, he already was able to talk, also, he needed soothers again and, he had enormous mood swings, unexplainable at the beginning and after he was already programmed – at least the basic steps of programming were done – after some breaks in visiting his “father” – all the things came out, one after the next, over months…

Another symptom, this is very important because it is heart-breaking – those children are always surrounded with perpetrators. So, take very care, when you child liked a (former) friend, a family member, a neighbour, (etc.) and all of a sudden, the toddler is telling you this person is not nice anymore. Take really care when this is happening, especially in this age when it is a five year old child, it might be a mood or the child might be just playing but especially serious when it is a toddler, because these groups are – meaning no single person can do this harm – so they are operating in groups, so you have involved neighbours, involved family members and you have involved acquaintances and it is also convincing the child that you would be cooperating unconsciously, because your child is told “your mummy or your daddy …” – I also know many concerned fathers… as protective fathers …. They always tell the child, “your mother or your father… want that you have now “ouch” – he/she is agreeing on that”.

And it is very stressing on a soul level as a protective parent, having no clue about the situation and the child who is experiencing this double-bind situation, that you are in contact with the perpetrators, meaning the protective mother or father is in contact with the perpetrators (without knowing).

And my son was convinced over weeks, that I wanted him to be tortured. – – –

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Dan&amp;Don: This is terrible.

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Andrea: Yes, yes.

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Dan&amp;Don: Was there a family member involved in your case?

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Andrea. Yes, actually my whole family is involved. It took me quite a while to find out – he told me quite late about family members involved – because they were close, they were I mean I was even phoning with them, telling them about his torture. He was listening while I was phoning with family members… So, I was even allowing his so called “grandmother” to babysit him, while I was at courts trying to find help for him (…) So of course – this was also done to re-trigger him, and she (at least) re-triggered him, and so on… So, I brought this to courts (too), nevertheless courts ignored it, and now I know of course, years later, that I grew up in a total mk ultra family

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Dan&amp;Don: So, from your page (www.traumabasedmindcontrol.com) it seems as courts were complicit and took care that the case would never see the light of the day.

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Andrea: Yes, yes, yes. What I also know now is, that they were phoning around (to manipulate, influence, betray officials where necessary), I mean I had many former friends or acquaintances who were involved so, seemingly it was a whole set-up my live which I did not realize because I did not realize that I am programmed, mk-ed myself. So, on one hand it was heart-breaking for me to see that all friends or acquaintances were joining the crime because my son already told me and on the other hand, I felt so free, it was so much healing in this information itself, you know.

That might sound a bit weird, but truth is always healing. And I also realized this with my son first: Every single story that he was able to tell me meant healing for him – instant healing – like with a finger snip, you know. So, as heart-breaking as it is it is healing.

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Dan&amp;Don: That´s good, at least.

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Andrea: Yes, and sorry, for all parents that might be in this situation, what it is also extremely heart-breaking, is, my son claimed for example that I am not his mummy anymore … he was not allowed not allowed to call me “mummy” anymore but “Andrea” – he had to call me with my first name and it is heart-breaking, when you are dedicated parent and all of a sudden your child claims “you are not my mummy – you are not my father – anymore” and it took me actually years to find out what was going on until – there was this tape from the pizzagate researchers – – they have it on audio, how it comes to the point that a child has to say to others – to strangers – mum and dad – caused via plain horrific torture.

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Dan&amp;Don: And how old is your son, now?

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Andrea: 2 to 2 1/2years was the period (…)

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Dan&amp;Don: Oh now, sorry, how old he is currently right now in the present?

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Andrea: Currently present he is 10 years now.

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Dan&amp;Don: So, this has been ongoing for a while?

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Andrea: Yes, ongoing for a while, yes. And the last horrific thing that happened – I mean already in 2011, when he was 2 1/2yrs old, he told me that he now would be a girlie, that he would not be able to get children and told me about castration, that they told him at least that they would have him castrated – they do this quite often by crushing the inner genitals – or pricking with needles (into the inner genitals) – – or taking out even the bulbourethral gland – but that is something technical you can read this up on my website – and, in addition to this – they sent me a picture of him, this January 2019, a few months ago without any comment, where I saw, that he already lost – ALL – his adult teeth. This is often caused via torture, via electroshock or other means so, am they show me – again – openly that my beloved son is tortured. I wrote to court again – prosecution office AND family court – and all I get back is “there is no initial suspicion” – not to even have a look on the boy, not to have him examined in detail.

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Dan&amp;Don: Well, it makes you wonder how much of this stuff authorities are covering up? You know, because it is not just one person, you know what I mean?

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Andrea: Yes. I mean this is the – it took me quite some time to find out – at least at the moment I think to be honest – I think that I was groomed for this role to create a kind of strategic entanglement machinery, because every single doctor, physicians, psychologist, therapist, teacher, kindergartener (pre-school teacher) prosecution officer, judge, police officer – they are all entangled because it would be their duty to help this child. And by covering-up, preventing him from basic medical examinations and treatment is a crime, also here in Austria. A severe crime, because torture – it´s like murder, you can get even jailed for helping or allowing torture actually you can get jailed even 60 years afterwards, you know.

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Dan&amp;Don: Yes, there is no here we call it “statute of limitation”, how much time it is past between when the crime was actually committed and the present day.

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Andrea: Yes, exactly. Thank you for the technical term. Same here – and so I am very worried, extremely worried that they are going to kill my son therefore, then claim the child would have had an accident.

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Dan&amp;Don: So, what do you estimate is the point of it, why they are doing this to all the children?

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Andrea: I mean, we call it (egg-laying wool milk pig) – I mean – you just have if you are a psychopath and think like a psychopath, I grew up with them, so I know much about how they think, you just have advantages: You can first use these children as part of their basic mind fracture as baby prostitutes. The younger they are the more money you get. Then secondly you have the satanic component, you can do a lot of black magic rituals, energy transfers, experimentations within some satanic cults and then you have the third row of physicians, doing plain mk ultra research, improving their programs or even try to sell a certain type of program. So, everyone is earning from that, as well on top it is known, that the Nazis started to do this – you can entangle a whole population with this crime.

We know for example, many whistle-blowers are talking about it, that you can be invited to a huge event, and you are proud because you think, yes, well this is important for my career your ego is (getting big) and you are excited to be there and we know that they are mixing drugs into the drinks there and then they let you participate in some (torture) rituals. So, of course this is filmed, and from then on, if you don´t go to police, to prosecution office and report about the drugs, the torture and hand yourself in, you are entangled.

And the next step is, that they can also ask for your children. And grandchildren.

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Dan&amp;Don: We knew this for quite a long time that they use this type of stuff as a black mail device.

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Andrea: Yes.

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Dan&amp;Don: You do not even have to necessarily participate in it, a picture of you in a room is enough.

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Andrea: Yes. I mean this is the most common procedure for those who are not in SRA or MK ultra. But here in Austria seemingly – I mean we have here the old Nazi home-base, I mean Adolf Hitler was Austrian – the SS academy of physicians was brought to Austria, to Graz, that is a town 2 hours away from Vienna – in 1940, so still SS academy of physicians is operating here – it was never shut down, so we have here such a high density of SRA and MK ultra in general population.

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Dan&amp;Don: So, you say this is perpetrated basically by the 4th REICH?

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Andrea: Yes, this is interesting, we have here 4th REICH but we have here also at least as my research goes to at the moment, I think we have here extremely strong THULE, with THULE I mean the combination of VRIL, the 4th REICH and the Vatican. Now also – unfortunately in Vienna – also having large co-operations with MOSSAD and with Russian secret service. Vienna for example was always said to be a melting pot of the secret services of the east and west, as it is a country, meaning a city, on the former boarder of east and west. So, we here have any secret services and they are sitting – I mean for us it is here the Nazis, there the Jews, then the Muslims – but we know that in their free-masonic lodges – or in their power centres they are sitting around one table together.

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Dan&amp;Don: Yes, wow. You know within our own research we discovered that that the THULE is actually behind the rise of the Nazi party.

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Andrea: Yes

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Dan&amp;Don: They basically installed Hitler.

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Andrea: They installed Hitler, they financed him. I mean there was so much money available for their research, for their military equipment, for their space flying saucers and so on… Even just look at their clothes, they were made by the later designer Hugo Boss. So, they had even designer cloths. Who paid for this in a country that had no money after the 1st world war?

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Dan&amp;Don: They were financed from Switzerland. I have learned everything from living in a military town – it is you have to look out where people go to receive funding for things – and – yeah – funding is king. It is funny, because the first time I ever heard about this about the whole concept about SRA, about satanic ritual abuse was that someone I used to be friends with from high-school and her mum told me that she basically got turned on into a conspiracy theory about this worldwide network of paedophiles that was basically run by the Vatican.

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Andrea: Wow.

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Dan&amp;Don: And the Jesuit order was actually on the centre of it.

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Andrea: Yes, exactly – I also always land at the Jesuits (doing research) – And the interesting thing for example, the brother of Wernher von Braun – Wernher von Braun, the rocket scientist and head of NASA and so on – his brother – Sigismund (von Braun) – was a diplomat in the Vatican.

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Dan&amp;Don: Really?

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Andrea: Yes.

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Dan&amp;Don: I did not know that.

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Andrea: So, you have the connection within one click. And of course, we have here mostly Nazis or former Nazis but especially in our own case, my son recognized perpetrators from Nazi families and from Jewish families committing the crime hand in hand. So, that does not make the situation easier, and actually when I am going against one group, the other comes and attacks me back… and they are protecting each other.

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Dan&amp;Don: Yeah, I think that it is a mistake to counter column. Nazis were behind it, because Nazis were just a creation of occult societies and THULE was basically all the ones who were active in Germany and suck them all up in form of a super cult. So, I mean even though the Nazi party is long gone the actually driving force behind it is still well active, still rock n rolling. And then you get the ties to the O.T.O from that. Do you want to speak on that Dan?

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Andrea: The O.T.O – I did not get that?

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Dan&amp;Don: Well as far I know Aleister Crowley started the O.T.O

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Andrea: Ahh – O.T.O  – yes of course

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Dan&amp;Don: during world war 2, they were magical tools between the British lodges the leftovers of the “Golden Dawn” then the VRIL, all basically started out of Blavatsky teachings… from what I can understand. – – – Right.

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Andrea: The O.T.O was even founded in Vienna. Austria.

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Dan&amp;Don: Yeah, I believe that. The closest chapter here is I think in Baltimore. Yes, this is probably 6-8 hours away from us.

Andrea: Wow. And you know, the interesting thing, for me at least, but it might be also interesting for you for example perpetrators my son was able to recognize, especially the older ones, Americans survivors in their 30ies, in their 40ies in their 60ies recognized the same perpetrators as their programmers, as their handlers, as their trainers. So, this group is operating worldwide it is not so huge as it seems. My impression is that the core programmers are still alive Mengele is still alive, Aribert Heim is still alive and they are not giving out of their hands their basic knowledge – that´s at least my impression.

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Dan&amp;Don: So, where would you think he is hiding, if Mengele was still around, in Brazil or – – – Argentina?

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Andrea: There are many reports that Mengele is in New York, looking like in his 50ies or 60ies

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Dan&amp;Don:  Really?

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Andrea: Yes, I believe that too. And first, you know, I was studying with comparative literature and there I was dealing a lot with the 3rd REICH and the Jewish survivor reports of the concentrations camps and some of them were saying, “they are still here” – they were saying this in the 90ies – “they are still here, they are still attacking us” – and I was wondering what was going on with them, why were they so afraid, so there were many Jewish survivors claiming that – the same with American MK ultra survivor Wendy Hoffman, she is also Jewish. She is reporting – that is highly interesting – that Josef Mengele was starting her MK ultra programming in the early 40ies – in New York – long before the war ended. So, this is all a cover-up, everything was prepared that the Nazis will be then transferred to America in my opinion.

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Dan&amp;Don: Yes, officially we have in the books that we had operation paperclip – – – project paperclip – – – yes, excuse me – – but, you know what I was saying about the O.T.O and all these occult orders having the same core stuff (…) so it does not really matter, it is all the occult order. So, very easily for them to have – you know – we have the same type of society here in the US and we had them in those times – so here we have your networks.

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Andrea: Yes, yes. I think on one hand they have these regression technologies for themselves and on the other hand they are playing a lot with time travel. So, I have concrete memories on my own programming now that I was talking with my own programmer recently, meaning one year ago.

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Dan&amp;Don: So, well how did that conversation go?

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(all laughing)

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Andrea: Well, from my own story just to give a frame for that it took me years even after the situation with my son happened that I realized that I was total MK ultra too, because my programming is on one hand extremely well done and on the other hand extremely well hidden. So, when I am changing alters one nearly cannot see any difference – and no one can see it. So, a friend of mine, Miesha Johnston, she is also working with me for years now, is also stating that she cannot see a difference on me (when changing alters). So, this just to give a frame for it. But over the years I got some hints and, I realized when I was in Norway, actually, I realized that during a deep meditation a kind of portal was opening it felt as if my bed would get wheels, my bed would have been driven into another room, then an airlock of a military base would have been opened… – I was in plain shock and just shouted “No, I do not agree, I do not consent” – and then I was driven back, so I realized that I was fetched by a portal technology.

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Dan&amp;Don: So, when you say portal technology, are you talking about like people from a secret space program or a breakaway civilization, are we talking about the same portal technology?

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Andrea: No much more practical. If they want to fetch you, they just need a kind of electromagnetic frequency I call it – I am unfortunately not a technician – but they just can fetch you where ever you are. So this I was experiencing on your own, you are lying on your bed or you are sleeping and they just take you and for you it feels as if your bed would get wheels and you are transported into – I do not know if I was on this planet or off-planet – but they just take you to a complete different location, and the same way I was brought back.

And there, I have memories, talking for example to one of the not so well-known Nazi programmers, Aribert Heim, but he was (has been) a close colleague of Joseph Mengele.

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Dan&amp;Don: Do you think maybe that there is any possibility that the portal technology or the leaving could be screen memories?

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Andrea: No, – no, because it was not just ones, I had many of them… … I don´t think it was a screen memory actually, no. Because also during regression it was confirmed. So, I have memories on my own, meaning I made the experience during deep meditation several times – and during regression it was confirmed. But, I mean, talking about screen memories: All could be screen memories but it would be for too much in sum for screen memories, you know. I also found out during a session that I was programmed at the Wewelsburg castle in Germany.

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Dan&amp;Don: And that´s the place where the Black Sun and the 4th REICH is located, right?

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Andrea: Yes, it is Himmler´s occult castle. And I found out later, later I did research, many are telling the same stories, that they were laying there on the black sun symbol… getting programmed or tortured or whatsoever. So, it cannot be a screen memory of all of us, you know.

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Dan&amp;Don: Right. You know it was not to be like accusatory or anything.

Andrea: I understand. I question myself a lot about it and actually, maybe, I think often too long

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(all laughing)

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Dan&amp;Don: You know, it´s been discussed in some of the circles that are circulate through that they now have the possibility to place false memories in your head – dark city style. You know, they can take a memory from one person and implant it into another.

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Andrea: Yes, of course they can. But, you know, there are always – how is it called – injuries (scars) on your body. So why I do have these problems with my coccyx or with my tailbone? – without having any memories about an accident. Why do I have quite crippled pointing fingers without any memories? Of course, from torture. Why do I have memories like – actually I had the ability to store memories like an audio recorder or video recorder in my brain. Too many things that cannot get explained via consciousness transfer or implanted memories, you know. But I am very aware of the situation, that not everything is true. And I am very careful in my research, therefore.

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Dan&amp;Don: Right.

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Andrea: And, I am just talking about things, where I am 100% sure.

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Dan&amp;Don: We are like the opposite – (laughing) – we are going on air every week and are just (talking about everything) I mean on our show we are not afraid of wild connection  – – – We speculate quite often. A great deal, it is pretty much the point of our show – it is wild speculation. But you know we also try to provide a platform where everyone can come in a non-judgmental atmosphere and let the audience decide on their own. And, I wanna thank you for coming on and talking about this – – – And I understand that you are taking incredible risk by doing it, but the risk not doing it is even bigger.

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Andrea: I made a decision, I mean, my son, shortly before he was taken, I asked him – we knew it could happen because there was the imminent danger of course – so I asked him, what I should do in such a case, meaning if I should focus on him or for him and all his little friends, and he said – of course in his language in these days – please fight for me and all those other children. So, he told me what to do and I am going on with that of course.

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Dan&amp;Don: So, how would you go about trying to – or would it even be advisable – to merge personalities that have been fractured due to trauma-based mind control?

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Andrea: You mean, in terms of healing?

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Dan&amp;Don: Yes.

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Andrea: I mean, on one hand it is a very long process and on the other hand it is going very quickly, depending, if secret service or the cults who think they would own you are leaving you alone or not. So, for example Miesha Johnston is doing wonderful sessions with me as a hypnotherapist, but, for example after every single session I am fetched and memories are again deleted. So, I just have the audio recordings and it is very difficult to come into this memory flow. So, healing is possible very quickly in my opinion when you are left in peace. That´s my message, you know. And many are also, like we do know from other secret space whistle-blowers like Penny Bradley who is a friend of mine and a colleague – she is also under attack. So, the point is: Are you left in peace, are you attacked by direct energy weapons, are you poisoned, are there murder attempts against you or are you even fetched and your memories are wiped out again and again and again?

And what cannot get healed – sorry, just one sentence – what cannot be healed, if you have mutilations, for example, this cannot be healed and even if I would get back my son now, I cannot give him back his childhood.

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Dan&amp;Don: right.

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Andrea: Same here with me, but alters can be integrated, alters can be found, it is not such a big deal, but most of us are not left alone, they do not let us live in peace, that´s – for most of us – the problem, I think.

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Dan&amp;Don: During all your healing, have you figured out, what the intend was for your mind fracture?

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Andrea: The intend for my mind fracture?

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Dan&amp;Don: Yes, what did they use you for?

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Andrea: What I have found out so far, but this section is blocked the most, is, that I was used I have memories of being used for small or smallest agency jobs. I was used in Montauk seemingly my ability was or is to search for or to find certain things they used this ability a lot

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Dan&amp;Don: Now, was that something like astral travel or remote viewing or was that something different?

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Andrea: My memories are more remote viewing based.

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Dan&amp;Don: okay, they were using you as a remote viewer.

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Andrea: this at least I know at the moment, and it is – at the moment very difficult to find them (…) And seemingly in some point in time they started to use me for the role I am playing now because for me it cannot be a coincidence, you know… … also the studies, my whole education. I mean why did I study comparative literature? So, you are good in observing, in puzzling together text pieces… then, I have an education in business, in statistics, … then also as a counsellor, trainer coach – so, I don´t think this is a coincidence, I really think they trained me to be capable for the role I am doing now. So, it is a bestial cynical game actually. you know?

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Dan&amp;Don: Yes, it is seemingly.

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Andrea: And first, I thought, wow, you are so lucky to have all these educations and over the years I tend to think, well, was it really my decision? You know what I mean?

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Dan&amp;Don: Yes, and earlier you talked about shifting from one personality in the other and it was not indistinguishable so that´s kind of scary for me – how do you even know then, like of how much of what you are doing is wanted to be done and how much is a programming? Like you are coming to my show right now, you know what I am saying?

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Andrea: I mean, I am used to that, everyone who is programmed is used to that. It is normal – I recognize it now better when I am in a program, I have the classical “fight or flight” modus, this are signs for me that now I am in a program or in an alter that is suggesting that there is no other way. Or, in the early years I found out that when I am extremely ill, I start to look the brightest… I start to shine, you know. This is done via extreme torture “no one is allowed to realize how you are really feeling”.

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Dan&amp;Don: Yes, that´s bad. – – – The sense of isolation is overwhelming.

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Andrea: Isolation?

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Dan&amp;Don: Yes, having the secret, not being able to tell the world that this stuff is happening and happened.

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Andrea: I mean, I can tell the world.

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Dan&amp;Don: I mean like for the victims…

Andrea: I mean is a huge point in my life, that´s why I stopped here. They keep me well isolated; I am living here in a small studio actually in Vienna and they are keeping me in principle isolated for years now. I have fortunately friends all over the world which can be met over the internet, but there are no local friends, there is no local network and, over the years – it is maybe also interesting – even after the thing happened to Luki, my son I was brought into an even more sever isolation over secret service agents: They come as helpers, they come as friends and, over months and years you realize, well now I am completely isolated.

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Dan&amp;Don: Have you lived in Austria your entire life?

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Andrea: Mostly, yes. I lived several months in London, in the beginning in 2013, where I tried desperately to find help for my son, I lived and worked in London for about 6-9 months, then I lived also in Asia, after a murder attempt I had to fly and lived in a Buddhist monastery to find some healing then I was a few months in Switzerland, then I was in Norway and most of the time I was accompanied by secret service officials, so they are really eager to prevent you from working on one hand, re-trigger you, re-program you, keep you ready for whatsoever, you know to target you.

And what they also do, especially in the early years, they do a lot of – this is extremely important for the audience – they do a lot of what we call “operative psychology” this means “erosion of the soul” – “ZERSETZUNG”: They really try to kill you by killing your soul or hurting your soul so much that you either get really insane, or you commit suicide or you knock at the door of a psychiatry and ask to live there for the rest of your life. And this is extremely dangerous – I am not joking about this – for example one of the first helpers that was here, was from the secret service – officially he wanted to help me and my son – and sitting in my living room and having coffee with him, all of a sudden I thought, O my god, I had the feeling now I am getting crazy to be honest, as there was so much cognitive dissonance in this meeting until out I found out, that he was one of the torturers of my son.

And it sounds very easy now here, when I tell this, but when you are in this situation, it is nearly unbearable. And they love, for example, to send you agents, that were involved in the torture – it is extremely important for breaking you down on a soul level because your unconsciousness knows it – just you as a person does not know it and – after this did not work anymore – because when you find it out once you find it out much quicker the next time, and so on, so it does not work any more

What they also did, for your audience this is also important, they recorded the torture events of my beloved son meaning his crying, begging for help, crying for me and then, they sent me these happenings over white noises (into my living room). So, the same is going on, you are unconsciously on a soul level listening to that and you do not hear it directly, because it is white noises and I promise you, if you do not find out, you are getting insane, it is nearly unbearable. As soon as you find out it does not hurt you so much and you can try to record it and then often it immediately stops.

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Dan&amp;Don: Do you think this is what could have happened to the diplomats in Cuba? And a couple of other places, I think China, there are diplomats claiming to be sonically attacked.

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Andrea: I think yes, because even if it is not your child it is breaking down every sentient being. It is unbearable, it is really unbearable. Because on a soul level it is eroding your soul, it is weakening you and you have no idea because you do not hear anything, you know. So, yes, my opinion is this could be.

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Dan&amp;Don: So, is there any way you could possibly shield yourself from that besides from living in a

deprivation chamber

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(all laughing)

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Andrea: I think the most important thing is to know because what you know cannot kill you or cannot drive you insane you can do something about it. General protection is very difficult for example, because I was sitting in Norway in a small little Fjord, you know and they came to electroshock me in my living-room from outside.

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Dan&amp;Don: what?

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Andrea: yes.

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Dan&amp;Don: That´s terrible.

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Andrea: and this device can be bought in any shop worldwide. Even privately, so even we could buy it if we wanted to, you know. So, it is more important to find out what is going on, and about the mechanism how the secret service operatives and their satanic crews are operating then to protect, because you cannot be so protected, they most often find a new way, you know.

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Dan&amp;Don: right. Always a countermeasure.

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Andrea: Yes, and for example in the settlement where I live in Vienna half of the settlement thinks I would have (tried) to commit suicide because a secret service officer told them so…

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Dan&amp;Don: really?

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Andrea: yes, the other third thinks I am insane (and the few left do have children in mk ultra or SRA/child trafficking programs on their own)

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Dan&amp;Don: Just to clarify, when you say secret service, are you talking about something over there or are you talking about the US secret service?

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Andrea: Oh, no, here in Austria I talk about local Austrian secret service.

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Dan&amp;Don: Okay

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Andrea: And, I even after a murder attempt, I mentioned them even with name, picture, address towards prosecution office, but they do not mind.

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Dan&amp;Don: So, in Austria, what would be the secret service be in charge of? What would be their main job? Here in America, their only job is to protect the president.

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Andrea: Aha, okay, I did not know that.

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Dan&amp;Don: yeah, we got the CIA and the NSA, they are all intelligence agencies. The (…) defence agencies, the whole we call them alphabet agencies… but the secret service basically is just here to protect the president… Yes, the CIA and the FBI are the 2 big intelligence agencies that most people know about

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Andrea: Okay. Here in Austria we have the situation that general population does not know that secret service does even exist. So, when you start to talk secret service, they more tend to think that you are insane, they are so brain-washed so, this means that Austrian secret service is excellent because a population that does not know that the agency exists shows that the agency did a brilliant job.

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Dan&amp;Don: So, this would be more a “men in black” agency than the CIA? The men in black, that do not exist to investigate UFO, (…) or they come and collect evidence on topics that technically do not exist? Yeah – they are part of an organization, that´s so secret that there is no name for it.

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Andrea: Yes, something more like this. And you know, they more look like we do… they are caretakers of houses, housewives, pensioners, invalids, …they really have a brilliant stuff, you know it is not – we all have still have in our mind the James Bond type.

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Dan&amp;Don: Right

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(all laughing)

Andrea: And when someone is not looking like this type it cannot be, you know.

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Dan&amp;Don: So, you have to look on your watch and I am sure a good portion of old Europe remembers secret police

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(all laughing)

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Andrea: So, it is extremely difficult here in Austria. We here are also not allowed to talk about UFOs and not allowed to talk (actually think) about aliens.

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Dan&amp;Don: Really?

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Andrea: Yes, we are so brainwashed, even I am I have to admit. I have really troubles to talk about aliens… … because it is so forbidden here that you do not dare (even think about it), you know?

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Dan&amp;Don: Yeah, American culture is pretty obsessed with aliens and there is a state in the US that made a law that made it illegal to get abducted

(all laughing)

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Andrea: really?

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Dan&amp;Don: Can you believe that?

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Andrea: Yes, but this is free speech and we must not forget that we are here in the Nazi home-base so why are they the brainwashing the population even to not dare to think about it? Of course, we have a lot of alien contacts a lot of (informal) bases, a lot of UFOs but it is the best protection, no?

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Dan&amp;Don: Yes, I guess so it is given a giant stigma I mean it used to have a pretty big stigma here too, but it is losing up in the last 20, 30 years I would say. – – – Well, we are speaking here about the CIA there it was said, everything you see on TV, everything you hear on radio anything that makes its way into the mass consciousness, is what we call culture changing, is you know – basically the powers that be taking these ideas and grounding them into the American Zeitgeist. So, are you are familiar over there in Austria with the Tavistock institute?

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Andrea: Yes, of course.

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Dan&amp;Don: So, a lot of techniques come from them for mass penetration. And repeating chunk at the psyche on a mass level – – – So, I think the way it worked here is, keep this under-wiring sort of theme, that if anybody talks about it like UFOs or extra-terrestrials, yeah, they are crazy, but… since we have such a hard time making everything who is seeing something in the sky look crazy… we are just getting here “not talk about it” or “make it part of the culture”.

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Andrea: Yeah, I mean, you really have freedom of speech, you must not forget this.

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Dan&amp;Don: Yes, for now.

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Andrea: And you had gorgeous whistle-blowers, activists, scientists over the last 60 years actually who did so much from any angle of the truther scenes… basic field research – Anthony J. Hilder, Cooper – I now miss his first name –

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Dan&amp;Don: Bill Cooper – – – Milton William “Bill” Cooper

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Andrea: than all those dealing with SRA and MK ultra, so without you Americans I think I would not be alive anymore, because I think they would have broken me.

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Dan&amp;Don: Well, on behalf of America, Thank you.

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(all laughing)

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Andrea: thank you, America.

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Dan&amp;Don: You know, I mean I get the feeling, all of that is coming up backyards, as we recently had a few stories shared in the group – this is just in 2 days ago – that 2 major child trafficking rings are broken up, one in Detroit and one in Georgia.

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Andrea: Child smuggling rings?

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Dan&amp;Don: Yes, and we are in Virginia.

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Andrea: I mean, this news with smuggling rings, this is great for the concerned children, but then you maybe safe a few hundreds, you know. But, in my opinion it is more important to get out the whole thing what was done on them in terms of programming? Because then they are taken out from the smuggling rings and placed into foster places where they are ongoing programmed or used for whatsoever. So, we have to raise the awareness, in my opinion how the procedure is done on toddlers and small children because otherwise we cannot stop the whole issue. And these children are becoming perpetrators on their own, not all of them, but many. So, the number is raising of course, also the numbers of perpetrators are raising.

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Dan&amp;Don: Well there is a never-ending leak of horror stories that emerged from CPS – child protection services, the whole foster care system – you know, juvenile courts, there is a never-ending laundry list of horror stories emerging from those sectors.

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Andrea: Yes, Nancy Schaefer, I think she was an American senator… she was collecting materials about your CPS and she was suicided with her husband, I think 1 or 3 days before the hearing

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Dan&amp;Don: Something we have to dig into – – – Yeah.

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Andrea: Much is published about her, so you can find her – Nancy Schaefer is/was her name. (<a href=”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Schaefer”>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Schaefer</a>)

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Dan&amp;Don: Sounds familiar. Was she investigating Haiti?

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Andrea: She was investigating the CPS.

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Dan&amp;Don: So, just CPS, so she was not investigating child trafficking in Haiti?

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Andrea: Not Haiti – as far as I know, not Haiti – but child trafficking and CPS and money laundering there out of child trafficking.

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Dan&amp;Don: Well, it is commonly known, at least in conspiracy theory circles that there are terrible things being done behind closed doors by the elites. So, the Clinton foundation is involved in Haiti… this guy Jeff Epstein, what is referred to as “rape island” in the US Virgin islands… … you know the Clintons made multiple trips there, probably twice as often as Trump but – yes – he has been there, then Weinstein, Harvey Weinstein – – –  Just recently too, then we have this Nxivm cult getting broken up in the same type of thing – I have not heard anything about children involved in that one but this one was more human trafficking – – – Keith Raniere got locked up for taking pictures with 15year old girls (beside other things)

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Andrea: Okay

Dan&amp;Don: the whole pizzagate thing, and you know people who want to laugh about that claiming “pizzagate is not real” – thinking it was just about the guy owning the pizza restaurant (…)

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Andrea: I mean this is extremely important and I am so glad that other guys are doing this research but what I, what for me is more interesting, all those guys you mentioned, Weinstein, Clintons, etc. – all those guys are MK ultra themselves. So, also my son told me – this was so interesting – heart-breaking, heart-breaking: he told me that other toddlers were present and they were forced to do him “ouch” – “ouch” was our code for torture, you know. So, the small ones, perpetrators were forcing their own children to torture my son and other children – so this is part of their mk ultra program – that they have to do this to other children. And when you see them growing up then, then you have the adult versions of Weinstein, Clinton, however they are called or Bush – same here in Austria, no difference – By the way – Arnold Schwarzenegger – also involved in all this, is Austrian.

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Dan&amp;Don: You know, you mentioned Bill Clinton being MK – I met Bill Clinton one time, he was campaigning for his wife, in 2008 or something like that and he was doing some speech for her in a gymnasium and at the time I was involved in a actors groups and we stood there asking questions (…) – ambush journalism basically – (…) – so someone dared to ask him about the Bohemian Grove. And when I got to him it was so strange it was as if – the energy in the room was as if he was a rock star – he held his speech and he is doing the meet and greet thing and he just: IT was empty. Like his face, it was just like – you know – I shook his hand and asked a question and he was just blank face and it all seemed as if he was not even there. It was great.

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Andrea: I mean there is this famous video from him online – I do not know if you know it – but where he gets make-up before a speech I think, and there you see, that there is nothing there, that he is just a shell

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Dan&amp;Don: It seemed that way to me. I mean he did the speech well you know – he seemed alive and well he was giving a speech, but afterwards it was just like if he was looking through everyone. You know, he did not even see anyone in the room.

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Andrea: I think this is more important – for me it is more important – to point the fact that they are programmed themselves. That does not mean that they are without guilt of course they need to take back their personal responsibility and liability. you know. But it is important that we know that they are programmed themselves, so were programmed for these roles. So you have all these perverted torture events with small children – I am not talking about sex, because for a child it is always torture – when you just think of the body measures of a child or a toddler and an adult man or even woman – it is torture, but they are programmed to do this. And of course, it is still the responsibility – even programmed – of them to seek help, to stop it and overtake responsibility and liability. We must see that they are victims on their own and that even their children are programmed into this role to become perpetrators later on. So, if we do not see it, if we do not recognize it, it never stops.

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Dan&amp;Don: And, yeah, this is kind a common thing with molestation cases and stuff like that that are not necessarily tied into SRA or Mk because there are just people out who do that. And the children themselves turning around and doing it to other children, maybe thinking it was normal as it was done on them. You know, outside of the whole ritual abuse thing, and well, yes if there is on top the whole programming thing, there is no wonder.

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Andrea: Yes. And I mean many survivors are speaking out and say I want to stop this – so, you have the decision – I made the decision, many others did so not all victims are becoming perpetrators.

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Dan&amp;Don: Right, so, what do you think I guess the stats – how many do you think are concerned? (….)

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Andrea: Millions.

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Dan&amp;Don: So, I guess if we step up to the plate so to speak to realize that it is happening to you first. I wished, there just were a beam we can use to reveal all of this – if there exists one, maybe it does I think it is a kind of violation (…) once you have done this kind of shit (…)

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Andrea: And I mean there are different levels of programming. Not everyone gets the – I am now cynical – gets the governmental programming from the secret service with lifelong torture included. There are many steps from basic child abuse to mk ultra programming and many grey zones, you know. So that´s why I think and many talk about it, that millions are concerned.

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Dan&amp;Don: With that not giving too much information away where I work… – everyone knows where you work, Dan – – – Ah, well, I work here in (…) and this kid says “mummy, I want this starburst” and the mummy says “no, you get the skittles to support the troops” – You remember the white and blue skittles they had one day? – and well, brainwashing starts at home. That was just an anecdote, well I mean cultural conditioning, this kind of programming. You know, it is little things like that, that adds up to overall programming. A computer program is made of lots of bits of codes. Right, and that bit of code right there.

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Andrea: Yes, of course (…)

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Dan&amp;Don: So, we are about of running out of time here. So, we again want to thank you for coming on – Her website there – if you guys are interested to check it out- there is a lot of cool stuff on it and will later post it to the group. So, go check that out. Andrea, do you have anything in closing that you would like to say?

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Andrea: Yes, to parents out there, I just want to mention, I did a lot of work on traumabasedmindcontrol.com, the most important information is in the forensics chapters and if you are in the situation, try to find immediately a lawyer, and go together with the lawyer to a hospital, maybe you pay even privately for it, and do a MRT/CT/nuclear medical examination of your child, document everything, even the reaction of the child toward the hospital equipment and the atmosphere, because most often it is accompanied by flashbacks. If you don´t do this, you have no proof in your hands and most often your child is taken away. And you have any questions, you can reach me on Facebook or over the website traumabasedmindcontrol.com

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Dan&amp;Don: Awesome. Thanks for coming on and we hope to speak to you soon – it´s been a great discussion.

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Andrea: Thank you for having me and I wish you a nice evening in Virginia then.

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Dan&amp;Don: You too. Thanks for coming on and thanks just the level of bravery it takes to come forward on this (…) and this is the kind of courage and get this rich and nefarious elites that are manipulating humanity from the shadows (…) this is where it starts.

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Andrea: Yes, thank you too, for your work, I think we all are brave here, doing something, we all chose our topic, I chose mine your chose yours. Thank you for having me.

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Dan&amp;Don: No problem, talk to you soon.

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Andrea: Bye!

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<div class=”_1mf _1mj” data-offset-key=”f6bpa-0-0″><span data-offset-key=”f6bpa-0-0″>[Round table with Dan and Don from Reality Brief – realitybrief.net, recorded, May 4th, 2019 with English subtitles]</span></div>
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<div class=”_1mf _1mj” data-offset-key=”5nola-0-0″><span data-offset-key=”5nola-0-0″>Over the years Andrea found out, that not just her beloved son was in an MK ultra-program, but she herself, with a life that has been a total MK slave biography, master-designed by Joseph Mengele himself, including Black Sun programming at the Wewelsburg Castle in Germany, time travel operations, Intel, Montauk chair, SSP, bloodlines, breeding, strategic entanglement, portal teleportation. </span></div>
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Dr. Rainer Kurz: Patsies Made in Austria & The Kingston Terminator

 

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Having lived in Germany until 1989 I am not a ‘native speaker’. A few months ago I got acquainted with a new term when I was made aware that Gustav Fritzl, the notorious Austrian who held his daughter captive in the basement for 20 years and made her bear 7 children, could have been become a ‘Patsy’ in the assassination of Swedish Prime Minister Olaf Palme. Ole Dammegard provides the narrative having specifically moved to Stockholm to investigate the matters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvoyaUHkbXw
This ‘conspiracy theory’ features TWO clandestine authority operations with Fritzl targeted to become a patsy by one of them with another person becoming a patsy in the end.

What is a patsy?

Google suggests: ‘A person who is easily taken advantage of, especially by being cheated or blamed for something.’

I have come to believe over the last 5 years that there are many patsies in the UK (in)justice system who are victims of ‘vested interests’ and unfair authority processes so feel that another definition holds more stock:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=patsy

patsy. scapegoat. red herring. person accused of a something as a cover for a bigger more elaborate crime. Oswald was a patsy in the Kennedy assassination.

There we have another ‘conspiracy theory’! Apparently the term was coined to discredit those who doubted the ‘authority narrative’ of this assassination. By now the Internet is full of ‘conspiracy theories’ and the topic itself has become the subject of academic study. An article by Stef Aupers (2012) ‘Trust no one’ in the European Journal of Communication provides a handy overview of some ‘key conspiracy theories’ that I advise readers to critically engage with – if nothing else to sharpen critical reasoning skills and sharpen own insights into the world.

AbstractPopular conspiracy theories, like those about JFK, the attacks of 9/11, the death of Princess Diana or the swine flu vaccination, are generally depicted in the social sciences as pathological, irrational and, essentially, anti-modern. In this contribution it is instead argued that conspiracy culture is a radical and generalized manifestation of distrust that is embedded in the cultural logic of modernity and, ultimately, produced by processes of modernization. In particular, epistemological doubts about the validity of scientific knowledge claims, ontological insecurity about rationalized social systems like the state, multinationals and the media; and a relentless ‘will to believe’ in a disenchanted world – already acknowledged by Adorno, Durkheim, Marx and Weber – nowadays motivate a massive turn to conspiracy culture in the West.

Aupers picks up on the term ‘Conspirituality’ coined by Ward & Voas (2011) and quote from page 108 ‘The growing middle ground position of ‘conspirituality’, Ward and Voas explain, however, ‘appears to be a means by which political cynicism is tempered with spiritual optimism’.

My interest in the topic stems from the chilling case that I have been investigating since May 2012 where a mother who had escaped from an intergenerational abuse family and her toddler were made ‘patsies’. A family member seemingly ‘bumped off’ the boy’s half-aunt, his nursery teacher’s friend and his godmother in order to stage with impunity an ‘unbelievable’ day time sexual assault for the purpose of ‘Child Smuggling’. I covered the case on 23rd April 2016 at the ‘Children screaming to be heard’ conference with slides downloadable from my blog:

https://psychassessmentblog.wordpress.com/2016/04/23/family-court-child-smuggling-presentation-at-the-children  -screaming-to-be-heard-conference-london-23rd-april-2016/

As the video recording for a planned documentary on Child Snatching was technically unsatisfactory I presented the same slides once more on 30st September 2016 at a Trauma Workshop in North London covering more of the organised crime background:

https://youtu.be/jtDxFG_arCw

The first hour is presented by a Counselling Psychologist who has been providing services for more than 20 years to individuals who experienced ‘extreme abuse’. Next is my presentation. This is followed by Austrian Magister Andrea Sadegh.

Andrea Sadegh & ‘Luki’

Andrea was born in Austria – the country that gave to the world Mozart, Adolf Hitler, Arnold Schwarzenegger (who became the Governor of California – a role previously held by Ronald Reagan) and Felix Baumgartner. The small country rose to prominence in August 2006 when 18 year old Natascha Kampusch emerged having not been seen since March 1998:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3577718/Is-girl-kept-cellar-eight-years-secretly-shielding-SECOND-kidnapper.html

There are rumblings that Natasha’s mother ‘sold’ her into abuse. It is disturbing how a specialist for finding ‘missing people’ was persecuted for putting such a theory forward at the time of her disappearance. Recently a review of the ‘suicide’ death of the kidnapper Wolfgang Priklopil centred on sensational claims that he was murdered (i.e. ‘suicided’) before his body was placed on the railway tracks. Two eminent coroners investigating the case believe Priklopil’s death was ‘not investigated to acceptable forensic standards’ by police and that he may have been killed before the train decapitated him. They declared that medical and legal reports concluding that Priklopil’s death was suicide were ‘worthless’. A former president of the Supreme Court of Vienna, who was involved in previous inquiries into the truth about the Kampusch case, agrees there are ‘serious doubts’ about whether the kidnapper killed himself. Early suspicions about Ernst Holzapfel’s involvement in the kidnapping were originally compounded by the fact that he was allowed into the house where Natascha had been held just hours after Priklopil had supposedly committed suicide. Claiming that he went there to pick up tools, he has since been accused of removing computers and images of Natascha that would have implicated him in her captivity.

Less than 2 years later another disturbing case emerged as per Wiki entry:

‘The Fritzl case emerged in April 2008 when a woman named Elisabeth Fritzl (born 6 April 1966) told police in the town of Amstetten, Austria, that she had been held captive for 24 years behind eight locked doors in a concealed corridor part of the basement area of the large family house by her father, Josef Fritzl (born 9 April 1935), and that Fritzl had physically assaulted, sexually abused, and raped her numerous times during her imprisonment. The abuse by her father resulted in the birth of seven children; four of whom joined their mother in captivity (one dying just days after birth), while the other three were raised by Fritzl and his wife, Rosemarie, having been reported as foundlings.’

Local authorities failed to realise that Fritzl had been convicted of rape and had spent time in prison. They meekly accepted explanations of three ‘foundlings’ ostensibly left by his daughter. How about some critical thinking and DNA testing?

Humans are capable of all sort of things. However mental health professionals are quick to dismiss disclosures citing archaic Freudian and (Neo)Kraeplinian ‘theories’ that seemingly have been developed to obscure the true origins of mental health issues (which are frequently neglect and abuse in early child hood) and deploy them to obfuscate persecution and outright criminality.

A third case of such nature ‘in the making’ is the case of Andrea Sadegh and a child called ‘Luki’ whose disclosures were indicative that he was being abused while on unsupervised custody visits to his father (of Persian origin). Her investigations suggest an extreme abuse ring with 60 alleged abusers/helpers. Initial research efforts failed to return meaningful explanations for the boy’s behaviours. However since hearing about dissociative disorders (formerly referred to as Multiple Personality disorder’) she has become one of the leading expert-by-experience researchers in the field. The case story and slides on mind control techniques can be found here:

http://traumabasedmindcontrol.com/index.php/english-summary/

http://traumabasedmindcontrol.com/index.php/author/andrea/

Leading academics in the medical field seem to be involved in the abuse group and nobody is prepared to authorise or conduct the kind of psychological assessment required to establish dissociative features.

I had similar difficulties sourcing information about extreme abuse trauma and getting professionals to conduct and write assessment reports as outlined in my first ever paper (at ESTD 2014 conference in Copenhagen) on abuse and mental health assessment issues:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/279975389_True_Traumas_-_Top_Ten_Tips_for_Case_Management

Note how Lacter& Lehmann (2008) warn (see slide26) that ‘Reports of mind control methods, espionage operations, and spiritual or psychic experiences not in the clinician’s experience should not be the basis for a diagnosis of Schizophrenia’, since: a, most clinicians are not authorities on these complex subjects, b, some abusers program bizarre beliefs (e.g., alien abduction) in victims to make them feel and appear non-credible or insane, and, c, Extreme posttraumatic stress from ritual abuse or trauma-based mind control can cause irrational fears and beliefs, especially if victims socially isolate and/or obtain information from unreliable sources, and, in severe cases, can result in acute or chronic traumatic stress reactive psychosis.’

I would add to this that vested interests in secret organisations tend to ‘stage’ events (misdirection, stalking, harassment, defamation, sexual assault in ‘unusual’ circumstances e.g. sex magick https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_magic) that are designed to appear ‘unbelievable’ and allow inadequate psychological assessments to draw negative conclusions.

In the case of Andrea Sadegh for instance vested interests managed to ‘spike’ tobacco that arrived by mail order with hallucinogenic drugs! She was told: “If you dare to mention the names of the powerful people in the group, we will have you committed to a psychiatric asylum. You, for the first time in your life, have to shut up and crawl.” She received death threats – that she would die either “instantaneously,” “by cancer,” “by a car accident,” through “psychiatric treatment” or by the use of “invisible weapons.” The same, she was told, could happen to ‘Luki’. She temporarily fled to the UK and Switzerland.

An interesting example of ‘framing’ someone to appear ‘insane’ can be found in the 1944 movie ‘Gaslight’:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslight_(1944_film)

In the UK the relevant SCID-D interview to assesses dissociative symptoms can be conducted by Remy Aquarone, former President of the European Society for Trauma and Dissociation’ (ESTD) at the Pottergate Centre in Norwich. In the event the legal representatives of the mother refused to challenge the inadequate Psych assessment reports of the ‘Court Appointed Experts’ and refused the offer of a privately commissioned assessment. A SCID-D assessment report was nevertheless produced that contradicted the ‘Hired Guns’ who willingly perpetuated the ‘myth’ that police, medics and social workers in the Welsh ‘MAPPA’ cabal had dreamed up to cover up the blatant, brazen and brutal ‘Child Smuggling’ operation. ‘Legal Aid’ funded solicitor and Council representatives also concealed historical intelligence test records that would have explained the mother’s neurodiversity issues including ‘Dyslexia’ and ‘Twice Exceptional’ ability pattern where high IQ was coupled with very poor auditory memory:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/297760498_TRUE_TRAUMAS_DISSOCIATION_SPECTRUM_SYMPTOMS_DIFFERENTIAL_ABILITY_PROFILING

 

Nena’ & ‘Elwood’

The mother in this case is not related to the German woman who was singing about ‘99 Red Balloons’ in the 1980’ies. She stems from a country east of the current borders of Austria. After separating from her first husband trouble loomed when falling in love with an attractive, charming man and quickly becoming pregnant. The father of the child seemingly had little interest in pregnancy, wellbeing of mother and looking after baby and mother. Little money was available and a disproportionate amount was spent on nice clothes for him and his tennis. Understandably they separated soon. However from age 2 onwards the father claimed and was granted through the Family Court system unsupervised access. For many years the child seemingly enjoyed the weekends with his dad. A few years ago enthusiasm waned and there were increasing signs of possible sexual abuse. Medical examinations proved inconclusive (72h after buggery there would be no ‘proof’) and the lack of proof was over time ‘turned’ against the mother like if it ‘disproved’ her concerns.

Unfortunately this sorry tale I have heard several times now. Mothers who raise concerns about possible sexual abuse by the estranged father are systematically silenced and accused that listening to disclosures constitutes ‘emotional abuse’. The method is succinctly described in the book ‘When his eyes turned white’ by retired teacher Catherine Ni Mhuillin (2014) who kindly gave me permission to upload the book to this blog:

World-Wide Pattern Followed in Court Licensed Abuse Cases

  1. Child discloses abuse, usually sexual abuse. Law enforcement does substandard investigation. Says there is not enough evidence to give to D.A. and closes the case. Child Protective Services does a substandard investigations, labels it unsubstantiated and shunts it into family court as a custody case.
  2. Family Court Judge appoints insider children’s attorney and / or psychologists to shift blame to the mother by fraudulently reporting that she is a liar / alienator and / or mentally ill and recommend custody to the father, who they opine is the ‘friendly parent’.
  3. Judge minimises, disregards and conceals evidence of abuse, finds the mother to be lying / alienating or mentally ill and gives custody to the abusive father.
  4. Judge isolates children from the mother and anyone who might support the truth about the abuse while they are Stockholmed and brainwashed by the abuser, a ‘reunification / deprogramming therapist’, or an out-of-state camp, into forgetting about or recanting the abuse and agreeing to live with the abusive father.
  5. Judge places mother on supervised visitation where neither she nor the children are allowed to speak of abuse, past or present. Supervision monitors report to the court if either speaks of the abuse and end the visits if they do.
  6. Judge makes orders that prohibit children from seeing professionals who may support their disclosures, prohibits mother from taking children to doctors or therapists, and gives the perpetrator control over who they see.
  7. Judge gag orders the mother so the public cannot hear about the abuse or the cover up of abuse and threatens that she will not see her children again if she does not remain silent and go along with the cover up.
  8. Judge disempowers the mother by bankrupting her through the legal process, traumatising her through separation form her children, and enabling the abuse to continue.

Dr Lynne Wrennell, Senior Lecturer in Criminology at Liverpool John Moores University, who inspired Catherine to write this book, wrote an excellent article about the ‘Trojan Horse’ nature of so-called ‘Child Protection’ and features in some You Tube videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAJP34Apq88

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlITOhIGbWw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cr08hswCHo

http://queens.scholarsportal.info/ojs/index.php/surveillance-and-society/article/viewFile/4158/4161

 

Abstract
This paper belongs to an embryonic body of scholarship that documents the camouflaging of political, economic and commercial agendas under the rhetoric of Child Protection. The Trojan Horse theory of Child Protection, as this scholarship may broadly be termed, alleges the misuse of Child Protection powers for ulterior motives. Years of struggle against the Law and Order, Psychiatric and other discourses have won a raft of Civil and Human Rights protections. Bypassing these protections, Child Protection provides a rhetoric that disguises surveillance and disarms opposition, because a justifiable and apparently benign pretext has been found in the ostensible and entirely laudable, aim of protecting children. The paper collates widespread evidence of how the pretext of Child Protection has been used to extend surveillance and disarm populations. Through the discourse of Child Protection, children are propelled through various constructions from ‘child in need’, to ‘child at risk’, to ‘potentially delinquent’, to ‘delinquent’, but in each case, transgressions of ever more restrictive and constantly morphing laws, regulations and expectations are used to infiltrate techniques of information gathering deeper into more intimate parts of the social body. Child Protection is now used to penetrate where orthodox policing can no longer go. Throughout the process of criminalisation, whether children are constructed as victim or transgressor, pretexts for expanding power and increasing profit are developed. Transgression by, or against, children, is used to further the economic, political and commercial interests in surveillance. To fully understand the relationship between surveillance and Child Protection, it is necessary to interrogate the information-sharing model that is built into the major Child Protection frameworks. The paper explores the manner in which Child Protection has been structured by the information- sharing model, to benefit the sectional interests in surveillance and the detrimental consequences that this has for children and young people.

I discussed the case of ‘Nena’ and ‘Elwood’ through correspondence with an ‘expert-by-experience’.

X: I have gone through each point you made as that felt best – tuning to the child and the mother and the SS. The moment I read your mail, I knew this is the most important thing – in law:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/FmN9aypq1Wo

<Ed: Tammy Stefano interviewing retired US Detective Dan Scott>

‘When you allege child abuse, child protective services take over and investigate child abuse referrals.  This show explains that social workers have a role but it’s NOT to investigate the crime of child abuse in fact, it’s the police that are OBLIGATED to investigate child abuse because child abuse is a CRIME! This wonderful guest tells us why and explains how parents can enforce Law Enforcement to investigate. Social workers are NOT investigators for crimes. Report child abuse Crimes to the Sheriffs or Police Department first!’  

RK: As the boy gained confidence he started to disclose more.

X: Yes, once children gain your trust they do disclose bit by bit. From observing them they watch like hawks for the smallest sign that they are not being believed and withdraw back into their shells.

RK: When disclosing some matter to Social Services they simply claimed the mother had coached him to say these things and threatened long-term foster care.

X: Yes, this is always the pattern – blame the mother and then the matter is put to bed.

Yes – threaten the child with long term care – punished for telling the truth and sent away. Gosh do they never learn how destructive they are.

This is used in PAS <Ed: Parental Alienation Syndrome> cases – Charles Pragnell did some great work on that.

RK: Last week disclosures to mother and boyfriend included anal intercourse and oral sex with biological father.

X: How difficult that must have been for that child. It’s not something a child makes up. Child is clearly seeking safety and protection and trusts mother.

Was the child brought to police and medically checked?

Now child will feel he got his mother into trouble and it’s all his fault. Both child and mother are being punished…so chances are he will not say much more. He will have lost trust in social services forever.

RK: When the mother informed SS they decided to make her boy stay with a friend for one night, and later fabricated lies to claim that the  mother was in a ‘bad state’ – which is entirely untrue.

X: Mother informed in good faith believing crime would be investigated.

If she had not disclosed she would also be guilty of failure to protect. Catch 22.

This is so typical and criminal. It’s all a set up and it’s their word against the mother.

So when did SS investigate this crime?

When did they pass the criminal case over to police?

The mother would not be in a bad state if she was fabricating it. Would she?

However, if the mother was in a bad state – could it be from the trauma of her child disclosing the sexual abuse crimes. You know where I am going here. Agree and then make the point.

Just remembering when I learned of my child’s sexual abuse, I was unable to speak for 3 days- shock and trauma.

RK: This Thursday a 2 week holiday with the father was coming up.

On Tuesday SS told mother that they are taking her to court on Wednesday.

They demanded from the judge that mother’s access to son is limited to ‘supervised only’ due to risk of emotional harm and ostensibly Borderline Personality Disorder.

X: Again identical pattern.

My judge friend told me “it’s all to do with father’s rights, resulting in things being 100 times worse for child sexual abuse victims than 20 years ago”.

Supervised access means the child will not be allowed to mention anything about abuse and is silenced now.

Detrimental to his well-being.

Social workers are not trained psychiatrists, so how did they diagnose the mother?

It’s their usual pattern and no one challenges them by asking them to CLARIFY how they reached their conclusion.

I also learned this from the Judge who never lost a case as solicitor.

RK: They asked for no restrictions whatsoever on father even when acknowledging he failed to complete requested drug tests and sent threatening messages to SS.

Yes, this is the usual pattern here too. One set of standards for abusers and another for mothers and children.

If he threatened SS then he is well capable of threatening the child and anyone else involved.

Why did SS not prosecute him for threatening them?

Are they accepting it as acceptable behaviour? Have they no respect for themselves?

So there is a drugs issue too? How then can the child be placed with such an adult for 2 weeks unsupervised? How is that protecting the child?

Peter Hofschroer

This case concerns an Austrian citizen and seems to be about asset stripping of elderly people, whistleblowing and reprisals. From what I gather ‘vested interests’ took over the house of his mother in Yorkshire and shunted her into a care home:

https://grandmabarbara.wordpress.com/

During his time in Germany decades ago reportedly British Army Police (!) turned up to harass him – seemingly on unlawful orders of another family member using clandestine channels.

Surprise, surprise with this kind of background – 6969 (sic) pornographic images were ‘discovered’ on an old computer that he seemingly had no access to for quite a while:

https://victims-unite.net/2015/07/11/whistleblower-peter-hofschroer-in-york-crown-court-july-27-aug-1-be-there-if-you-can/

I understand that he recently got released from prison one day at 6pm in the evening – without warning or preparation. He apparently made it to the home of a kind McKenzie friend and stayed there for a week.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/JusticeforPeterHofschroer/?fref=ts

On Thursday 10 November 2016 Peter was facing extradition to Austria, where he has been ‘sectioned’ in the face of a psychiatric report, which confirms he is perfectly sane.

Working together with Grandma B’s abusers, the Austrian police and judiciary want Peter out of the way to:

1) Silence him

2) To prevent him from stopping them fraudulently selling his house in Austria, where he and his mother “Grandma B” spent several years in exile from their home in York.

Like in Britain, the misuse of mental health laws by corrupt judges is commonplace. Peter is facing extradition to Austria, where he has been sectioned in the face of a psychiatric report, which confirms he is perfectly sane.

Working together with Grandma B’s abusers, the Austrian police and judiciary want Peter out of the way to:

1) Silence him

2) To prevent him from stopping them fraudulently selling his house in Austria, where he and his mother “Grandma B” spent several years in exile from their home in York.

Like in Britain, the misuse of mental health laws by corrupt judges is commonplace

Peter is facing extradition to Austria, where he has been sectioned in the face of a psychiatric report, which confirms he is perfectly sane.

Working together with Grandma B’s abusers, the Austrian police and judiciary want Peter out of the way to:

1) Silence him

2) To prevent him from stopping them fraudulently selling his house in Austria, where he and his mother “Grandma B” spent several years in exile from their home in York.

Like in Britain, the misuse of mental health laws by corrupt judges is commonplace.

Susanne Kellner Johnson

Another Austrian activist who has been facing persecution by Psychiatrists is Susanne Kellner Johnson – looks like another ‘Child Smuggling’ operation:

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/8073349.Mum_complains_after_being_dragged_from_bath/?ref=arc

She described how her bathroom door was broken down by police on the orders of a psychiatrist, how she was taken from her bath, strapped to a trolley and taken to the hospital by force.

“To this day I do not know why I was sectioned,” she said. “Yet the hospital management has continuously refused to divulge any information regarding the circumstances of my forced detention.”

And she now faces a huge legal bill after having to fight for custody of her young daughter, who was taken into care.

“Nobody will ever be able to erase the horror, terror and fear from myself and my daughter’s memories,” she added.

Sources told me the following background:

Originally Susanne’s ex-husband wanted to have their house, but Susanne refused to move away, and since Susanne’s ex had committed sexual abuse on the 3-year-old child, who Susanne told me told her mother at that time which was 19 years ago, Susanne sought sole custody of the child, and was granted it in court.

Susanne’s ex sought out his psychiatrist Dr. A. to section Susanne which he did. This was back in 1997. That’s when Susanne’s troubles began.

The child was placed into foster care as far as I can recall.

The reason I feel that Susanne is held now is twofold. One she is a threat to Big Pharma due to her holistic therapy practice, and 2) she is a threat to the powers-the-be due to her human rights activism.

https://butlincat.wordpress.com/2016/10/25/upcoming-radio-show-on-susanne-kellner-johnson-human-rights-activist-whistleblower-being-held-in-asylum-force-fed-psychotropic-drugs-against-her-will/

In 2009 she managed to post on the site of Veteran campaigner Maurice Kirk (currently flying in a vintage plane rally across Africa):

http://kirkflyingvet.com/members/Susanne-Kellner_2D00_Johnson.aspx

Key is her background:

‘I am a psychic, healer and Shaman, if I live, I live, if not, I die.’

Proclaiming psychic capabilities is anathema to Psychiatrists. It is just not allowed as it threatens the ‘status quo’ – the narrow-minded totalitarian view of mainstream Psychiatry that colludes with authorities and disempowers individuals. No interest in ‘healing’ – just ‘control’. And no interest in the abuse, neglect and trauma in early childhood that at times leads to psychic capabilities.

It is informative to look at the arbitrary abuse of power she is subjected to:

It has just come to my attention that the police, according to TalkTalk my  telephone service provider, had instructed them to cease supplying me with  their services. This apparently happened on 16 June and I recently received  a bill from TalkTalk demanding a £70.00 cessation fee. I had been ringing  them for a week to find out what was going on as I had not cancelled  anything at all and was completely unaware as to what was happening.  I was now told over the phone on 21 July by TalkTalk that the police had  instructed them to stop my service provision. TalkTalk refused to give me  any further information on this issue and told me to contact the police. I  have now written to TalkTalk to demand a full explanation in writing so that  I can take the matter further.

What right has the police in the UK got to interrupt the only line of  communication of a foreign individual who relies on her phone to maintain  contact with her family in Austria, her friends, clients and professional  contacts? What sinister game are they playing, and who gives them the right  to simply instruct a telephone service provider to cease supply to  individuals? And why does the individual concerned not get any notification  of this happening at all, and why on earth should the individual concerned  be made to pay a cessation fee to the service provider if the police cancel  their service in the first place? 

It is blatantly clear to me that there are no civil liberties and no human  rights in this country. The police can do what they want and get away with  it. I also just received a so called ‘police investigation report’, which  once again is full of serious flaws. North Yorkshire Police is once again  covering up a forced entry into my premises in March, and once again  claiming a S136 arrest in the street, when in fact, they had stormed into my  house, both front and back simultaneously and are lying about it.  Unfortunately for them I actually have a witness who saw them do it.  I trust that you may be able to shed some light on the clandestine  activities of the local police force and their sinister attempts to prevent  me from contacting anyone at all, as well as their attempts to constantly  hide the fact that they are acting against the law. It is also clear that  they are constantly trying to provoke, terrorise and threaten me behind the  scenes in order to get me to react to it, but I simply will not rise to the  challenge. If I as much as make one angry phone call to them demanding an  explanation about their attempts to cut off my phone, I will immediately be  sectioned under the Mental Health Act again. 

http://www.exposetheestablishment.com/freedom-talk-radio/susanne-kellner-johnson-heather-ward-airedale-center-mental-health/

By now she managed to clock up 25 arrests, has been sectioned and threatened with yet-more HALDOL!

Chilling how authority representatives under the guise of mental health ‘concerns’ can persecute and silence activists:

These S135 warrants are a joke, they just lie to a magistrate, and the Magistrates Court does not keep copies of these warrants, they very often don’t even keep a copy on file! These warrants are not traceable and trackable.  Nobody knows how many are used in the UK every year, and there is no log as to who is subjected to these S135 warrant arrests either.  The police is supposed to log the execution on their computers, but that does not always happen either!

These are clear cut arbitrary arrest warrants ordered by a court of law, with the victim of the arrest not actually having access to justice or a fair trial, because it’s an ex-parte court hearing with immediate execution by the police. And they have new warrants now, who actually already specify the length of the prison sentence, such as part II of the Act, which is an immediate 28 day sentence, with forced treatment thrown in also!  And the latest new version of S135 is the one for the poor victims of Community Treatment Orders, where the police is authorised to retake them and track them via their mobile phones even!  Yes, under the new CTO’s the police can ping the recalled victim and track them down…  There is a lot of evil in this legislation and they are subjecting me to it all. I have no doubt that by the end of the week I will find myself on a Section 3 1983 MHA, and then a Community Treatment Order so that they can enforce the forced depots in the community.

I have already told the consultant that they would have to come with the police and kick in my door and handcuff me when they come with the depots, because I will not let them in.’

Susanne is seemingly being held under section 33 of The Mental Health Act 1983 as being incapable of looking after herself. Despite her friends’ repeated attempts of asking to see a copy of the court warrant or order authorising Susanne’s detention the solicitor acting for the mental hospital where she is being detained refuses to provide a copy. To add to that he will not give them me a copy of a signed document authorising the forced depot medication of Haldol against Susanne’s wishes. This drug was apparently given to Soviet dissidents in the 1960s to make them lose their memories and will to continue with their dissident activities – which is presumably exactly the reason that they are treating Susanne in this way because she has knowledge that embarrasses the establishment. To add to these injustices she is not allowed to receive unmonitored incoming or outgoing calls and her mobile phone is being withheld from her.

Susanne is being detained at Heather Ward, Airedale Centre for Mental Health, Steeton nr Keighley, West Yorkshire, BD20 6DT, Tel. No. 01535678131

The CEO of the Bradford and District NHS Foundation Trust is Nicola Lees:

New Mill, Victoria Road, Bradford.   BD18 3LD   Tel. 01274 228300

Updates can be found here:

https://butlincat.wordpress.com/?s=kellner

Latest info:

‘John’s effort to free Susanne now has caused the court to send a document in the post in which CEO Nicola Lees would be made to testify instead of what the judge wanted to have which would have forced John, as Susanne’s McKenzie friend, to have to cross examine a dead entity, namely the NHS Trust something that is impossible to cross examine. So we are making headway.

John scanned this document that the court sent and sent it off to the NHS Trust’s solicitor. That solicitor questioned that it is only one page, but John confirmed that it is only one page in his reply to the solicitor at which time John wrote words to the effect that Nicola Lees may opt to set Susanne free rather than risk her career as CEO of BDCT over the mental hospital. So time will tell.’

 

 ‘The Kingston Terminator’

I reluctantly use a somewhat sensationalist heading here to draw attention to the fact that authorities are continuing to shield from proper investigation a Kingston-upon-Thames resident who appears to be a serial offender. Have a look at the part-redacted document that can be downloaded below:

https://arsoninformer.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/suspected-arson-murder.pdf

A toddler who resided in Kington for about 6 weeks in August-September 2010 lost in this house fire his godmother – who was found ‘on top of roof tiles’ (how come?) with ‘broken legs and broken arm’ (due to fire?). A car indicator light was found that could have come off when the godmother (who had a severe walking disability) was crossing the yard to prepare the feed for her horses. A drug bottle was found on the window sill of the bathroom. Was the injured godmother drugged with this? Strangely the autopsy did not test for drugs as ostensibly there was ‘not enough blood available’. A Red Bull can was found on site that certainly would not have been consumed by the deceased. On top of all that an older gent gave a friend of the deceased a lift ‘back up to the burning house’. Was this ‘older gent’ who seemingly blended in across the Irish Sea a Kingston resident? A resident with surprisingly darkish complexion given the Irish accent and roots – probably stemming from an Indo-Aryan community far east of Austria that travelled (sic) 1000 years ago through Persia and the Khazar kingdom. A few months ago I saw him walk his dog (a golden retriever?) at the Thames near his home. Every time I visit Waitrose in Surbiton I reminiscence about the tragic-comical anecdote about what happened in the shop opposite (before the business moved to his home).

A half-aunt of the toddler died in her prime of life in October 2010. Coincidence? Her son had been raped at age 2 (documented in authority records; boy was put on the Child Protection Register) when playing in the garden…another member of the family was buggered at age 2…

A good friend of the boy’s nursery teacher was found dead in a village river in December 2010:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/south-wales-news/bridgend-maesteg/2010/12/30/police-findwoman-s-body-in-river-days-after-christmas-weekend-91466-27904340/

A few weeks later a row of cottages went up in flames overlooking the locations where the deceased was found and where she had reportedly been arguing with the Kingston resident.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-12314741

Following the three untimely death a stalking, harassment and defamation campaign ensued including an attempt to ‘mow down’ mother and toddler (another ‘dangerous driving’ incident happened reportedly around 2000 in Kingston). One incident documented in police records involved a police helicopter and two police cars intercepting the young family on a hiking trail due to malicious defamatory claims that were entirely unfounded.

In October 2011 the toddler got reportedly sexually assaulted by this Kingston resident (or a ‘look-a-like’). The mother reported the crime to local police with several weeks delay – following instructions received by a Kingston based police officer who made her promise that she would delay reporting of any sexual assault for several weeks – ostensibly to facilitate an ‘undercover investigation’. I analysed at the BDA Dyslexia conference the ‘Twice Exceptional’ ability pattern that facilitated this ‘programming’ making the mother and her toddler ‘patsies’ of vested interests:

http://www.bps.org.uk/networks-and-communities/member-microsite/division-occupational-psychology/science-practice

In a poster I outlined the organised crime connections that help to understand how the mother was made to go along with the manipulation:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/279975046_DIFFERENTIATION_OF_COMPLEX_TRAUMA_VS_SCHIZOPHRENIA_THROUGH_DIAGNOSTIC_ASSESSMENT_OF_ABILITY_AND_PERSONALITY_CHARACTERISTICS

A bunch of mental health professionals ‘covered-up’ what happened claiming the mother was ‘delusional’. Unfortunately Psychiatrists and Psychologist acting as Court Appointed Experts seem to routinely shield wrongdoers in positions of power.

Those who watched the odd Panorama program heard the ‘Nick’ claimed to have witnessed a school boy being mowed down with a car in Kingston around 1980. In addition to the various incidents described there are various other reasons to suspect that ‘The Kingston Terminator’ was the perpetrator of that incident. However Operation Midland and whatever its successor is continue to refuse to investigate claiming it falls outside there Frame of Reference e.g. 07/06/2016:

Dear Dr Kurz

Unfortunately at this time I am unable to provide to you the TOR for Op Midland. These are for MPS knowledge only, to allow us to investigate relevant information. It maybe in due course they will become public knowledge but not at this time.

I cannot provide you with the details for CRIS 0405609/13. This is a private matter between the complainant and the police. If you have further information regarding a crime then you can of course make another third party allegation to the correct force area. If you have a complaint about the way police dealt with this allegation I suggest that your best course of action is to report to the local force.  If you preferred to make an allegation to the IPCC they will then forward to the relevant force area.

With regards to an alleged linked series of murders I cannot see that there is anything at this stage to link those crimes. If you have a complaint about the way they have been investigated then I think the best way would be to go to the correct force area or the IPCC who will do this for you.

The same applies to the other allegations in respect of the Kingston Police officer and Edward Heath.

I can see that you have a considerable number of grievances with the way that a number of police forces have dealt with differing allegations. Op Midland is not the best way to deal with this. We have logged all your information, but at this time as stated none falls within the TOR for Op Midland.

Kind regards

On a previous occasion (12 May 2016) this ‘Operation Midland’ officer stated:

‘Further details are required, including the name of the Psychiatrist and how you know about his links to the Sadistic Violence Group, and the fact that Edward Heath was involved.’

I submitted on Sun 16/10/2016 numerous documents including a 45 page Third Party Crime Witness statement (previously ignored by two other police forces) naming the Psychiatrist who was seemingly involved in Kingston-upon-Thames shenanigans and ‘Child Smuggling’ proceedings that played out in a Court Room some 150 miles away.

No reply so far!

 

27/11/2016:

Source: Dr. Rainer Kurz, https://psychassessmentblog.wordpress.com/2016/11/27/patsies-made-in-austria-the-kingston-terminator/